God could be real!

BTW, I wasn't feeling good today and it ends up I have tested positive for C19. So I might take it easy on the God debate. Just a low grade fever so I don't think it's too bad.

My best wishes for complete and quick recovery. If it is within the first 5 days of getting the disease, there are some palliatives that work pretty well to reduce the intensity of the disease's effects. I cannot advise you on what they are, but then my "Doc" isn't a medical degree anyway.

It appears we are unalterably opposed on this viewpoint. As I don't wish to devolve into name-calling, I will simply say that I cannot accept your viewpoint any more than you can accept mine. I feel what I feel as strongly as you feel what you feel. You see "a guiding hand" and "DNA code being interpreted" - both of which require an entity that logically (to me) cannot exist because of the implications thereof. This is a fundamental difference and it is a mulberry bush I have already run around several times in the "Are You An Atheist" thread in this forum.

Be well, Mike. Take it easy.
 
BTW, I wasn't feeling good today and it ends up I have tested positive for C19. So I might take it easy on the God debate. Just a low grade fever so I don't think it's too bad.
Here's hoping for your rapid recovery. I saw a statistic the other day that said 7 out of 10 people in the UK have had Covid. A very high number by any stretch.

Regarding the debate, I've seen virtually all the arguments for and against. To me, no one changes their mind. As to the weight of the evidence, from my perspective it is so far over to one side that only an apocalyptic event would convince me otherwise.

Small changes are just that. SMALL.
What do you get when you add a large number of small numbers together? A relatively large number. What happens when you add a large number of small changes together? Large change. If fruit flies can evolve different properties in 4 years, what changes can happen over a period of 480 million years when insects first appeared? Think about it.

However, if you believe the earth is 8,000 years old, then you won't buy into my argument above. Nor would I if that were true. Not enough time for enough change.

What I do take issue with is the idea that a fruit fly can somehow over time evolve into a human or any other completely different species.
The fruit fly comes from a different lineage than humans. However, using your own logic that small change can happen, and the self evident fact that small changes multiplied a very large number of times will lead to very large change, when a fruit fly has experienced this very large change, at what point is it no long a fruit fly and indeed a different species? Surely a continuation of change eventually results in something different. That is the only logical conclusion. (Spock)

What I'm saying is that the universe is not an accident.
Since we are locked into our own universe, as far as we are aware, some of these questions can never be answered. There may be infinite universes in some type of bubble membrane. Many theories, and like Plato, we can only speculate what is outside of the cave.

It is possible that there is a creator of our universe, like some massive SIM game, where an intelligence has created the rules of physics. You can call them God if you like. And in some respects, you can argue they are indeed the God of their own creation. In that case, I am the God of Access World. Hmmm, I quite like that! 😁

In fact, come to think of it, if a creator is not verifiable because they are not intrinsically observable within our universe, they could indeed be the programmer that operates outside above the bubble membrane or in another dimension. That could coexist with the laws of physics as a possible hypothesis.

The SIM hypothesis is an increasingly common and quite plausible one, with many arguing the probability that we are in a SIM is near certain. It makes sense to me, although it feels hollow somehow, but I have no rational explanation for why it feels that way. If we are in a SIM, then indeed there is likely to be a creator of that SIM. If the probability that we are in a SIM is near certain, does that not mean the likelihood of a "God" is virtually certain? I can accept that argument. Did I just prove God exists?

SIM hypothesis: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simulation_hypothesis

So, I start off by disproving God. And now I end up proving God. It just shows how confused I am!
 
BTW, I wasn't feeling good today and it ends up I have tested positive for C19. So I might take it easy on the God debate. Just a low grade fever so I don't think it's too bad.
Sending good vibrations, Godspeed! :D
 
You will take note that all and I mean ALL biological creatures that can fly naturally in the air have WINGS.

Except, of course, flying squirrels, who just have loose skin membranes that they cannot flap very well. They do not have wings because they have hands and feet, and they are neither insects nor arachnids. Mammals are AT MOST quadrupedal. Hmm... If I lose enough weight and my skin gets really loose, I wonder if I might glide that way? And if God wanted creatures to fly, He might have given them better landing gear. Have you ever watched a duck come in for a landing on hard ground? What a terrible omission from the grand architect. They can take off but not land efficiently.

Let's not forget flying fish, which have unusually long fins. It's a great predator-escape mechanism.

Not to mention seeds that fly though the distribution mechanism of crepitation.
 
What about Covid, floating around in the air? :D
 
Leave it to doc to find the gliding squirrel example. Which is similar to that suit some really insane humans put on with a go pro camera and jump off mountains for the fun of it. The guy in this video actually goes through a hole in a rock formation and finishes off by flying down and back up over a dam wall. Incredible.

Insane Wingsuit Flight
 
The flying squirrels are looking for nuts. The people in the flying-squirrel glider suits ARE nuts. There has to be a correlation there somewhere.
 
Back in my hang glider days, I found out that spiders can fly on certain days when the thermal activity is high. I got into a rather large thermal and rode it all the way up to cloud top level for the first time. Mind you, I could not see until I got out of the cloud. Then to my horror, there are spiders all over my kite. All the other pilots laughed at me because they knew I didn't know what was going on. Those buggers can fly. Well it's more like hitching a ride on a thermal.
 
Flying spiders? Yecch! In south Louisiana, the "big" discovery made by newcomers to the area is that palmetto bugs (a big variety of cockroach) can fly. Oh, they crawl all over the place, but if threatened badly enough, they'll launch right at you.
 
Doc, I would have never believed it if I didn't see it for my self with all that silk swirling around my kite.

The first time I seen cockroaches fly was in Okinawa JP. They fly whenever they feel like it over there.
 

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