Is USA directly entering in the war, good or bad? (3 Viewers)

[The_Doc_Man]

I used to do pretty well with scotch & soda, but some years ago, my liver and I decided that we needed to part ways with anything for which one of the descriptions involved the word "proof" and they WEREN'T talking about anything that would stand up in court.

 

[Pat Hartman]

If they treat Iran as they treated Gaza, we are in for a huge world war. If they can convince themselves to exercise restraint, that will be preferable.

You show restraint when you need to build a bomb shelter in your home and your children need to play in underground bunkers to shield them from bombs falling from the sky on a daily basis. Every time you leave your family you wonder if the next bomb will take them from you. You need to talk to an Israeli who lives under those conditions. I have. Gaza is lucky I wasn't in charge on October 8th. Enough is enough and Oct 7th was too much. Meir was 100% correct. There is no negotiating with someone who's intention is to kill you and who teaches their children how to count by counting dead Jews. The difference between the Palestinians and Iran is that the Iranians are not living as refugees, people without a country so their hatred of Jews is not a daily part of their lives. That means there is hope for a reconciliation since the rift is not personal.

It was a snide remark. Some folks think is the US getting Isreal to do our bidding, others think its the other way around

Israel has done a pretty good job of defending themselves from the daily attacks from their neighbors but they couldn't finish the removal of the nucellar threat themselves. Given that we would have been target #2 for the nuclear option, Trump stepped up and took action. You can't say he didn't give Iran multiple chances to come to the table and work things out. Once your enemy has decided the only solution is your death, they become impossible to reason with.

 

[arnelgp]

This is what I get on FB.

 

[SachAccess]

Thankfully the war is stopped now!

 

[Isaac]

your children need to play in underground bunkers to shield them from bombs falling from the sky on a daily basis. Every time you leave your family you wonder if the next bomb will take them from you. You need to talk to an Israeli who lives under those conditions

You do realize those words describe life in Gaza much more than life in Israel, right?
I'm all for a war when needed to terminate enemy combatants, but simply getting revenge by a prolonged effort having nothing to do with enemy combatants, destroying every last man woman and child's house, school, hospital, and food sources is not appropriate IMO.

The idea is to win the war, not cruelly destroy the lives of all the citizens. Or at least, should be.

 

[SachAccess]

I respect all the countries involved. Please correct me if am wrong.

I1 saying to I2 that you can not have XYZ.
I1 has it. A saying I2 can not have it but A too has it.
A and I1 saying having a XYZ is a risk to humanity.
P has XYZ. A says P is a fantastic country.
P is known for doing things which are not good for humanity.
R, C and N has XYZ and can provide XYZ to I2.
Now if I3 takes same stance against P what will be the advice from I1 and A.
And who decides that who can have XYZ and who can not have it.
Getting confused here.

My post is related only about XYZ. I am not going to other things which I1 or I2 or A does or have done in the past.

 

[Isaac]

Hmm. That was dizzying to follow but I think I got the gist of it.
This is one of the unfortunate realities of the modern day that we have to live with and cannot seem to avoid.

Having nuclear weapons while simultaneously saying another one cannot have nuclear weapons is one of the uncomfortable, but unavoidable things.

Iran is a nation that has been actively trying to hurt and kill Americans and westerners for many years, with varying degrees of success, too.

If a crazy man comes into the park where my children are playing and threatens, and hurts them repeatedly, if I have a gun, I'm going to stop that person, and it won't bother me at all to be 'hypocritical' and say I can have a gun and you can't. In that moment I'll be unconcerned what people's opinions are, I'll just know this dangerous, murderous person [Iran's schoolchildren chant Death to America] will not be allowed to have a gun under my watch.

The most powerful people will end up deciding who can or cannot have nuclear weapons. Let's hope that countries which generally want people to be free and prosperous (not those which crave the termination or genocide of their neighbors) are the ones who stay in the 'powerful' group.