Led Zeppelin’s definitive song, Stairway To Heaven

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Those of us over 55 can have strong memories of this 45 year old song hit.
This might explain to the generations that followed why this was a big news item.

The verdict, from an eight-member jury at Los Angeles district court, came at the finale of an eight-day trial in which Jimmy Page, Zeppelin’s guitarist, Robert Plant, the band’s singer, and John Paul Jones, the bass player, vigorously denied plagiarising the song from an instrumental track recorded by an American group, Spirit.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/201...not-plagiarise-stairway-to-heaven-jury-rules/

This era of rock and roll brings back memories I hope the younger generation won't face. There was little optimism as we were overshadowed like condemned souls waiting for the executioner. The songs of this era on AM radio and 8-Track tapes provided escapes. I worked as a radio DJ on a late evening shift. I remember opening the promo to an obscure band, Pink Floyd's Free Four single.
For me, this era was a major event. The Viet Nam War draft was in full swing. When the choices were Vietnam, jail or draft-dodging by going to Canada, some young men panicked and devised ways to fail the military's physical exam, including mutilating themselves, starving or pretending to be gay.
The compulsory draft, which had been amplified by the Democrats under President LBJ , meant registration for young men was mandatory at 18. While college students could get deferments, when my friend's grades failed, they were picked up and sent to boot-camp for a few weeks, ,shipped to Viet Nam, and all too often returned in a body bag. Recruiters would literally knock on my dorm room, and offer me "options" to this situation if only I would sign up. The neo-conservative democrats on my county's Draft Board had exemptions for their own son's, but called me into meetings to insure they could send their quota.
The division of attitudes between the WW II vets that expected a call to duty was not an option and the ethics of this time was very intense.
 
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As I recall, the entire trial concerned a single issue.
That Page has stolen a guitar riff from Spirit's song.
12 seconds on a 3 minute song is a pretty week case IMO.
But this is America where everyone sues everyone else for any little thing.
 
We don't sue everyone else for every little thing!
I sue you for saying that!!! LOL

Thanks to smart phones, my app can sue your app?

When I was a Microsoft trainer, I was teaching an advanced Access class in Hollywood.
It was MGM Studios. The larger connected DB kept track of all the royalties, logos, ownerships, payouts and such.
So in theory, if some logo from some movie was printed on some fast-food's cup for sale, it paid a tiny fraction of a percent. Those parts of cents were added up and divided among the many investors, actors, and owners of that icon. There are literally thousands of lawyers employed there.
The icons in the US are a huge, huge income stream. Another assignment there was for the same kind of thing for music.
I can't get that out of my mind when watching a movie or seeing some image on something like a cup in the trash.

During class, I asked what the daily cash flow was there. It was just astounding so I whistled. Then I was tied up for two weeks for song copyright violation! (That isn't really true... but that is the place where it could have been.)
 
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Whenever some stupid lawyer starts that crap, yell "Fair Use Clause" and demand that s/he explain why less than 10 seconds of something, usually on the order of a couple of percentage points of the total work, is worth anything MORE than a whistle.

As an amateur writer of fantasy fiction, I had to research the Copyright Act of 1975 and its more recent amendments. Clear as mud, but there is a loophole for various special cases that use a small part of a work and that don't profit from that minuscule use.
 
The deciding factor in patent litigation is often the amount of money a complainant has compared to the defendant. The rich side can simply send the other side broke.

It is one reason why Microsoft doesn't often lose copyright litigation and why sometimes a defendant will choose to pay the license rather than take on the battle over some stupid claim.

Samsung vs Apple comes to mind.
 
Led Zeppelin and others were notorious for lifting riffs especially from "Old Black Blues". Having said that, the amount of time that passed after the violation must of played a part.
 
Pretty much all music is based on preceding work, much of it dating back hundreds of years.
 
This list contains songs that were, lets say heavily borrowed from. With little to no credit at the time. Now they are credited in most cases.

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Every time I hear the snippet of Taurus it reminds me of another song from the same era. One day I will remember what it is an it will be interesting to see which had precedence.
 

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