Again, no offence to this forum, I wasn't even aware it existed until I'd followed a link on MDBMakers. Additionally, my dba responsibilities have shifted a bit in the last year, previously I was charged with taking an unworkable inherited Access db and making one that would work for producing program reports, and was quite successful in doing so if I may be so bold, with some assistance from the kind folks over at MDBMakers, which was at the time my primary source of online Access advice. Unfortunately program management has decided to go the route of using an off site provider for ongoing database needs, we're using an application which has a front end written in C+++ and a back end on SQLServer, and is primarily a case management rather than reporting tool, which also unfortunately doesn't work for s**t. Note to anyone looking at third party providers for your database needs, do not go with *ata *ystem *nternational's product *lient*rack (name obscured for privacy), the thing seems to have been designed by mediocre students. No referential integrity, no parallel structure in the setup of data elements, is incompatible with any version of IE more recent than 6.2, completely incompatible with FireFox, and the training and support, in a word, sucks. My joy in life is to admin the thing. I've killed a lot of free time designing an Access application that would generate the requested reports but so far have received no management support for implementing it, they'd rather keep throwing good money after bad I guess.