I have realized that I can't total a calculated control in a sbfrm, it must be a field and queries are the best option. I Have created a query and put in the following field Total Amount: Sum([AccessCost per]*[AccessAmount]) then had an unbound field txtbox on the form that totaled all of the cost. It worked great, but using hte query based sbfrm as the record source does not allow me edit or change info in the subfrm. Any ideas?