Tea?

[Vassago]

Yikes. Was he taking No-Doze?

I was wondering what road they took - I couldn't find a straight one on mapquest - !?

Don't remember on both counts, I was sleeping...

I offered to help drive, but he insisted on it.

 

[Sum Guy]

I-75 to Detroit.

Then ask.

Actually I was just checking with my Rand McNally.
I-75 to Cincinatti
State Route (unknown) to Illinois
I-43 through Chicago to WI.

 

[thisisntwally]

Unless you think 50 mph is reckless and unsafe, I'd avoid any route that takes you through Chi-town. It can take upwards of three hours traversing the windy city as you honk and slowly swerve around giant ditka-looking moustaches. I'd recomend jumping on I-74 in Cincinnati (beware the monacles, take the I-275 loop and you can skip the queen city, in fact Ohio, altogether). Circumvent Indy, and when 74 hits I39 (you're in IL now) you can shoot north and hit 43 just past the Wisconsin border. Unless you drive like a pansy, you should be able to maintain 70-80 mph on these roads. Also be sure to enjoy endless beauty of the midwestern landscape. One can truly never tire from the joys of corn and soybeans as far as the eye can see, or the mind fathom.

edit:
on the subject of tea...though loose-leaf is always preferable and can be readily acquired wherever your local literati lurk, ie coffeeshops, co-ops, Tofu-huts... the prebagged Stash brand is a decent enough alternative to your lipt0ns and carnations, and its available in a multitude of varieties. Also Yerba Mate, as previously mentioned, is quite the stuff and can be a hella good time. Also don't forget green tea, which, while lacking in the taste catagory (when brewed properly it should not be bitter), can be REbrewed once or twice and i find it to be rather invigorating. and I drink 4-5 espressos a day. so im not all that easily impressed.

 

[Rich]

One can truly never tire from the joys of corn and soybeans as far as the eye can see, or the mind fathom.

Do you see the Green Giant there too?

 

[KenHigg]

One can truly never tire from the joys of corn and soybeans as far as the eye can see, or the mind fathom.

I used to wonder how there was enough food to feed everyone. After I drove through the midwest I wonder what the heck we do with all of that corn -

 

[thisisntwally]

Do you see the Green Giant there too?

No. Diversity is quite lacking round those parts


Ken - Regarding the corn... we sell most of it to livestock producers and now to the ethanol industry at unjustifiably low prices enforced by absurdly high subsidies from the US gov't put in place at the request of lobbiest supporting the capital heavy corporate farmers and the 'agricultural service' industry. If im not mistaken they buy up the surplus as well, paying the post-subsidy price.

edit: I would like to take this moment to raise the point that rising consumer prices for corn is simply a manifestation/manipulation of the Mobb.

 

[statsman]

Saw an interesting show on TV this week.

Seems most prepared foods are now using corn syrup as the sweetening agent rather than good old white sugar. Corn syrup is up 200% for this purpose in the last 10-15 years as its now cheaper.

If you want to get into US government subsidies in agriculture, peanuts is the best place to start.

 

[thisisntwally]

American Peanuts eh? I knew that sugar imports were kept low to help prop up big corn, but i wasn't aware of rampent peanut protectionism...thanks for the study tip bayesboy!

 

[statsman]

Back in the Great Depression, peanuts were one of the few crops that actually sold. Peanut oil was and still is used in a lot of industrial processes, not just for food. As a result, too many farmer began to grow peanuts.

The US Dept. of Agriculture assigned quotas to peanut farmers in the US to ensure peanuts were not over grown. It is illegal in the US to grow peanuts unless you have a quota. They are still in force today and have never been updated. They are passed on from father to son. Many of the farmers who own peanut quotas don't even grow peanuts, they sell their quota to other farmers.

Every attempt to redress this idiotic situation has been successfully stopped by the peanut lobby.

 

[ColinEssex]

Back in the Great Depression,

That was last week when the US Fed reserve cut interest rates by 0.75% to stop the downward spiral of the US dollar after Baire Stern went bust wasn't it?

Col

 

[statsman]

That was last week when the US Fed reserve cut interest rates by 0.75% to stop the downward spiral of the US dollar after Baire Stern went bust wasn't it?

Col

You're thinking of the GREATER Depression. It starts next week.

 

[Rich]

You're thinking of the GREATER Depression. It starts next week.

That for me started the first time Bush opened his mouth as the self proclaimed "leader of the free world"

 

[Sum Guy]

That for me started the first time Bush opened his mouth as the self proclaimed "leader of the free world"

I was speaking of an economic depression, not your emotioal state.