I read the dialogue between ghudson and bikeman77. I decided to follow the route that microsoft suggested which was to use a macro to execute the form. Problem is I don't think it launch the form because it went past five minutes and didn't shut the datbase down. The way my database works is that it launches a form at startup where I choose a job position or create a new one and it takes me to my enter/edit form. I used the same VBA code but theirs differed in how they executed it. Any suggestions?