KenHigg said:
Seems to me that if you aren't driven away froms gays a much as the next guy, then you'd have more gay friends.
Attraction and friendship are not equivalent, Ken. Everyone you are not 'driven away' from would then, by your reasoning, be your friend and everyone who is not your friend you would be 'driven away.' Your argument doesn't hold water.
KenHigg said:
In my opinion, we all have a limit, we just elect to draw our lines in the sand in different places. One guy don't do pink shirts, the other guy may not wear a thong to the beach... Even you have displayed a degree of what you label as insecurity by being prompt and clear on correcting me that you were not, in fact contemplating a gay lifestyle.
I'm not saying that I don't have my own insecurities, everyone does. But the whole point of this argument is to say that a metrosexual male is on average more secure in sexuality than a non-metrosexual male. The reasoning behind this has been given time and time again. Yes, each person has their 'line in the sand' but the motivation for drawing that line is what determines whether or not it plays into the argument.
I have long beheld that if pink isn't your color because it doesn't look good on you or you had some childhood traumatic experience with a pink elephant or ANY OTHER REASON than the supposed 'homosexuality or effiminacy' of the clothing then it's not an issue. If you don't want to wear a thong at the beach because you find having a string up your a** uncomfortable then I can say - so do I and agree with you. It's not the in/action that concerns me as much as the motivation for the in/action.
However, I will contest you that I have displayed any kind of insecurity in simply correcting you from making an assumption that was leading you to draw inappropriate conclusions. Moreso, the fact that you continue to insist that it is a lifestyle instead of proven genetic predispositioning belies a scientific ignorance that I have taken upon myself to correct you of whenever possible. The swiftness of my reply has little to nothing to do with my level of 'security,' and has everything to do with cauterizing the wound before it bleeds too long. As for clear, I have found that I must be crystal when having such discussions with you as you will spin and run anything you can get your grubby little hands on.... like any good debater...
KenHigg said:
So you're saying I have this psychological condition?
No Ken. I don't make assumptions about other people, at least I try not to, and when I do, I certainly don't want to make a statement (IE KenHigg is 'blah'). I don't claim to know all your motivations because I'm not inside your head. Do I have suspicions ? Certainly. Much of your dialogue thus far has indicated a severe fear of homosexuality. Fear of that is strongly indicative of an insecurity in ones own sexuality. That is not to say I suspect you are gay. Insecurities stem from all sorts of regions from physical characteristics to marital environments all the way down to simple depression. But my suspicions aside, it's not my place to play shrink so I won't attempt to label you as a typically insecure male. Only you have control of why you do what you do.
uh... That was kind of a pun. Sorry...
Ahh... sorry in turn for biting your head off about it!
~Chad