Wow...

[Pauldohert]

nonetheless is correct isn't it?

 

[boblarson]

nonetheless is correct isn't it?

Yes, according to dictionary.com, either nonetheless or none-the-less would be appropriate.

 

[Brianwarnock]

I was busy editing my post when you all posted, Paul is correct.

Brian

Edit
I'm getting far too slow at typing.

 

[Kryst51]

I think it might be hyphenated, certainly not one word, but I wont get pedantic about it. Anybody out there good at English?

Brian

I just looked at the Oxford Dictionary online and it has it as one word and says underneath "also none the less" The only reason I asked is because I try to be correct, and I think I remember seeing it as one word in some books. Anyway, it's off topic but thanks about not being pedantic about it.

EDIT: HA! I was busy writing a response to Brian when all or you posted! @BobLarson - Doh! effect vs affect always gets me, I always got points off on papers due to it.

Edit 2: Spelling of the word "pepers" to "papers"

 

[Pauldohert]

I was busy editing my post when you all posted, Paul is correct.

I know!



I googled it to be sure


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Now I certainly believe Brians original post to have been edited - or I wouldn't have replied, Brian says he edited it. I know when I edit mine it puts and edited thing in the bottom.

SO why cant I see edited on Brians post? I have closed the browser and reopened ....?? Uh?

THese forums move in mysterious ways - a misunderstanding over how they work has led to 2 out of 3 of my warnings.

I see Krysts edited one too and it doesn't show up? So I'm editing this to see what happens ?

 

[boblarson]

Anyway, I'll chime in briefly on the question of banned individuals. The individuals who have been somewhat referred to wound up pushing things way too far with the entire admin/mod team (not just a single person) and appeared to learn nothing from the temporary vacation. So, they were granted a permanent vacation - again not by any single mod or admin but by all of us - due to their refusal to stop the behaviour which was spilling over into other areas of the forum.

So for us it was either go completely lawless and see things totally deteriorate on all parts of the forum, or do something to halt the spread of the problems and maintain at least some decorum. We chose the latter.

 

[Brianwarnock]

@BobLarson - Doh! effect vs affect always gets me, I always got points off on pepers due to it.

Just remember that affect comes first, affect is the influence and effect the result.

Brian

 

[Pauldohert]

Now Krysts edit has shown on the second edit, mine has shown also. Is there a time period before the edit kicks in?

 

[Brianwarnock]

I know!



I googled it to be sure


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Now I certainly believe Brians original post to have been edited - or I wouldn't have replied, Brian says he edited it. I know when I edit mine it puts and edited thing in the bottom.

SO why cant I see edited on Brians post? I have closed the browser and reopened ....?? Uh?

THese forums move in mysterious ways - a misunderstanding over how they work has led to 2 out of 3 of my warnings.

I see Krysts edited one too and it doesn't show up? So I'm editing this to see what happens ?

I too am puzzled, I thought the edit didn't show up only if you completed it before any other posts were posted, but that didn't happen this time, but yes the forum does behave oddly at times.

Brian

Edit I edited posts 18 and 23 but it is not shown, does it not show if you don't give a reason for the edit?

 

[Vassago]

I'll add to what Bob said above. I've been here a long time and years ago when I first became a member, there were never discussions of a political or religious nature, even by the banned individuals, yet the Watercooler was by far the most active part of the forum! We all got along great and I made about 500 posts a week easily on my own! Unfortunately, I don't know if it's the times we live in, but certain focuses on some individuals seemed to turn very personal and caused previous friendly discussion to turn to debate, which turned to insults. When it spreads to the help related forums, it shows it's gone too far.

No one was banned permanently without multiple warnings leading up to such a step. Sure, some of them may be back under different usernames, and as long as they stay away from what caused them to be originally banned, I'm okay with that. We keep an eye on IP registrations and posts and bans regularly, so it's very hard for people to avoid being caught, but we also learn to forgive and forget if someone shows change in their behavior.

It's never a good idea to see someone banned that has earned a reputation here. It's also never easy to see that reputation deteriorate because of unprofessional behavior. We never ban anyone permanently without a unanimous decision by all staff and rarely ban temporarily without the same unless it's to discuss it further amongst ourselves. I hope that clears it up.

Going back to the topic of the thread, I think the numbers speak for themselves. We are hitting record traffic. Did any of you ever think it might be because of removing the personal attacks and such that ventured to the main part of the forum?

 

[Vassago]

I too am puzzled, I thought the edit didn't show up only if you completed it before any other posts were posted, but that didn't happen this time, but yes the forum does behave oddly at times.

Brian

Edit I edited posts 18 and 23 but it is not shown, does it not show if you don't give a reason for the edit?

It depends on how fast the edit occurs. If you edit it quickly enough, it won't show the edit.

 

[TessB]

Just remember that affect comes first, affect is the influence and effect the result.

Brian

That is the easiest explanation to remember EVER. Plus, it helps that alphabetically, affect comes before effect. I'll never have to take more than a second to decide which to use ever again.

 

[Vassago]

That is the easiest explanation to remember EVER. Plus, it helps that alphabetically, affect comes before effect. I'll never have to take more than a second to decide which to use ever again.

Good to see you around! Don't hear from you often.

 

[TessB]

I visit more often than anyone is aware.
At least once or twice a week. But you are right... you don't hear from me often.
I just don't have much to add to the discussions most of the time.

 

[Rabbie]

So for us it was either go completely lawless and see things totally deteriorate on all parts of the forum, or do something to halt the spread of the problems and maintain at least some decorum. We chose the latter.

Thanks for clarifying that, Bob. I was glad to see it was a collective decision and not just 1 person's.

 

[Lightwave]

Just remember that affect comes first, affect is the influence and effect the result.

Brilliant however not helped by the definition of an "affectation"

which is the demonstration of an effect on a person

 

[Galaxiom]

Yes but when it comes to STDs the "affection" comes before the "infection".

 

[Brianwarnock]

That is the easiest explanation to remember EVER. Plus, it helps that alphabetically, affect comes before effect. I'll never have to take more than a second to decide which to use ever again.

The alphabetic order is the key, sorry I didn't say that, but knew the people here bright enough to see that.

I owe that explanation to a good English teacher, old pegleg, he lost a leg in WW1, understood boys and taught us to enjoy English.

Brian

 

[Lightwave]

Yes but when it comes to STDs the "affection" comes before the "infection".

........Very good

 

[Galaxiom]

But the "infection" before the "affliction". Exception to the rule I guess.

That is the fundamental rule of English. Every rule has at least one exception.

It is a fabulous language. Comes from not being precious about the fidelity of the tongue and adopting any word we like from any language.