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Without a gene to prove that you are a different sex than that you were born with, So is your evidence.


Blade

Sounds like you are confusing Transgender with Homosexuality

Brian
 
!! Am I not on your side!! I agree that there is no positive genetic evidence (The UK College of Psychiatrist had to retract their statement that "people are born gay")
My evidence, if anybody ever bothered to collect it, would confirm that being gay is a learned experience which becomes a lifetime choice for some people.


Did not know there were sides here (side of tracks is an old metaphor for people from different environmental living conditions). But I do agree with you that it is a learned experience therefore a choice and again, I have no problem with their choice.

Blade
 
Did not know there were sides here. But I do agree with you that it is a learned experience therefore a choice and again, I have no problem with their choice.

Blade

Where did the first homosexuals learn their experience?

Brian
 
Don't know but people do tend to experiment.

Do You Know?

Blade

I'm in the nature not nurture camp, although I can see that one is more likely to experiment along certain lines if one is exposed to to them, but i very much doubt that that would affect the final outcome.

Brian
 
Why do you think I have not done any research on this subject? I have read many articles even some where the so-called brain scans brain scans are considered unreliable because of faulty assumptions. Also when you have two gay parents, why do 71% children grow up more likely to be gay or at the least bisexual. How do you explain that?

I told you my opinion and it is not going to change until a gene is found and is totally determined to cause Homosexuality. In my opinion by all the research I have read, being Gay is a Choice and again, I do not and will not criticize the choice or the person who makes the choice.


Blade

Most gay people are raised by straight parents, right? ;)
 
News????food for thought:

Just heard something on Fox that will make the Atheist of this very happy. It seems the number of Atheist have increase slightly over the last year and the number of Christians have decreased. I wonder if they took into account the number of Christians that have been killed by non-believers.?????/

Also heard the Pope was advocating socialism and communism vs capitalism. Like he really knows about them. I guess he was referring to the past times where the Catholic.Church just took things from people without notice. However, I would bet a mint that the money the Church has made during the 21st century did not come from socialist and communist countries but rather the European countries and of course America through capitalism.. Wow, who's pipe has he be smoking?

Have you heard that the Saudis and Turkey are trying to form a Caliphate. If this is true, look to Gog and Maygog.

There also have been rumors of talk concerning a one-world religion. Don't know if it is true but where there is smoke there is usually FIRE. Wonder who would be the ring leader here?

Blade
 
Most gay people are raised by straight parents, right? ;)
Sorry Vassago, you ask a question and I missed it.

To be honest, YES I would say the majority of gays I know came from straight parents but remember, they are now my age or dead. In addition, most of them had kids and a wife. Later in life the marriage fell apart and they went in another direction. Most of their kids I know, are not Gay and that is easy to tell these days as there is no societal walls around anymore.

Nowdays, I have no idea. I suspect without Goggling it that this particular statistic has changed. How much it has changed I do not know either.

Blade
 
I wonder if they took into account the number of Christians that have been killed by non-believers.?????/

I don't remember ever hearing a story concerning an atheist killing a religious person for their religion. Usually it just concerns personal matters.

Where's the facts behind any killings by "Non-Believers" due to religious differences?

There also have been rumors of talk concerning a one-world religion. Don't know if it is true but where there is smoke there is usually FIRE. Wonder who would be the ring leader here?

100% CTHULHU. May he devour you quickly.
 
I don't remember ever hearing a story concerning an atheist killing a religious person for their religion. Usually it just concerns personal matters.

Where's the facts behind any killings by "Non-Believers" due to religious differences?



100% CTHULHU. May he devour you quickly.

This comes up all the time - on a mass basis Pol Pot, Hitler and Stalin. Of course they aren't proper atheists - only religious folk are capable of such terrible crimes.
 
This comes up all the time - on a mass basis Pol Pot, Hitler and Stalin. Of course they aren't proper atheists - only religious folk are capable of such terrible crimes.

Idi Amin is a good example. A ruthless dictator who shifted from pro to anti-Israeli virtually overnight.
 
Sounds like you are confusing Transgender with Homosexuality

Brian

I've been pointing that out too. :D

OK but I already know what your going to say!!!!!!!!!

http://www.frc.org/issuebrief/new-st...vious-research

Look under the heading of 'What the Study Found'

Blade

Yeah, I'm going to believe a RELIGIOUS organization is going to complete or report about an unbiased study... Try again.

Any experiment they complete on this will immediately be flawed by the expectation of outcome they have already perceived.
 
This comes up all the time - on a mass basis Pol Pot, Hitler and Stalin. Of course they aren't proper atheists - only religious folk are capable of such terrible crimes.

I always love when people bring up these single three people as examples of atheists who commited attrocities. Their atheism was not instrumental in their ruthlessness. I would write a long explanation, but this sums it up pretty well:

http://www.skepticink.com/tippling/...atheism-hitlerstalinpol-pot-atheism-atrocity/

"Commonality is not causation."
 
You can equally argue that religious folk comit atrocities not based on their religion. But a complex tribal them and us power struggle based on politics.land.nationalism money a lost girlfriend etc. It's exactly the same. The more complex of the cases Hitler , he carried out a more systematic eradication of a religion than has been seen . Yet your article quotes him as a religious tolerant man? Hmm mm and puts the blame on an institution he was born into and had nothing to do with subsequently. There's also quite a lot of anti Catholic / Christian propaganda in that piece attributing blame, with far less leeway offered to millions of good people than it offers some of the most evil men in existence. That in itself is a worrying sign of the warped thinking of atheist them and us thing. I'm happy to concede both atheism or religion can produce horror. One doesn't seem to be better than the other.radical atheists and radical religious folk would claim otherwise.
 
You can equally argue that religious folk comit atrocities not based on their religion.

No, because the same atrocities of the holy books are exalted as evidence for a supreme deity that we must appease through worship.

All so called religious extremists are able to directly justify their actions through the precedents presented in the holy books.

The Abrahamic religions are fundamentally fascist philosophies that have no place in any discussion of morality.
 
I don't remember ever hearing a story concerning an atheist killing a religious person for their religion. Usually it just concerns personal matters.

Where's the facts behind any killings by "Non-Believers" due to religious differences?
100% CTHULHU. May he devour you quickly.

There are others non-believers out there,,,(i.e. ISIS,Radical Islamic Terroist, etc.) So far we have not had an atheist rise up and start killing Christians, Jews in this century. YET!

Blade
 
Idi Amin is a good example. A ruthless dictator who shifted from pro to anti-Israeli virtually overnight.

Pro Israeli , Anti Israeli -----What religion is this? Yeah, Saddam Hussian was a dictator and a ruthless killer who was an Radical Islamist. Rem, both Radical and Islamist do not believe in Jesus (non-believer) because only through him can you reach the Father. P.s. Saddam was a Sunni Muslim , the same as Saudi Arabia practices.

ISIS leader said the other day there is no excuse for Muslims not to join the battle against "infidels," declaring, "Islam was never a religion of peace. Islam is the religion of fighting."

Blade
 

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