How many genders are there? How many should there be?

Do you get the idea that you strayed into a touchy area?
EVERYTHING is touchy you super-nice person! that's what stupidity the human race has gotten itself into! and yes, I called you super-nice person for a reason - because you don't seem to take offense and we have a history. I would not do that to anyone else here. no idea who is who. no way to tell.

this is the same as "everybody takes to offense to everything". if you think the world can continue to satisfy everyone, you've obviously got another thing coming. they tried it for a while and it didn't work. it WON'T work. it can't. if it's getting this bad now, I would say just fight the damn war and get it over with like they have always done in the past.
 
I would continue until I reached the end of the list, holding up the train, the Passengers until somebody with a brain and some common sense shook some sense into the stupid idiot that complained until their teeth rattled!
i wouldn't expect any of this coming from uncle specifically. that sounds like a good old capitalist who has busted his ass to make something of himself in this world, and takes offense to stupidity and nonsense that hinders what he worked so hard for. Kind of like the notion that @The_Doc_Man falls under, along with many other things. Like @NauticalGent too. nothing wrong with that. why should I say there be? but it goes to show you how lazy people REALLY are in terms of their lack of ability to relate to others. they get stuck in their own damn thinking and therefore "this is right and that is wrong". I realize too, that some people will come back to me and tell me that I'm blowing my own horn once again. But this is the primary thing of what's wrong with this world, is it not? People are just too stupid, lazy, and many other things to have an open brain and care about others. no?

and no richard, I didn't say anything about religion, so leave it out of this. You won't like my response if you bring it back into this, when I said nothing about it this time.
 
Adam, next time you get banned can you come back as misconception_native_0123? It would make reading your threads much more entertaining.
 
EVERYTHING is touchy you super-nice person! that's what stupidity the human race has gotten itself into! and yes, I called you super-nice person for a reason - because you don't seem to take offense and we have a history. I would not do that to anyone else here. no idea who is who. no way to tell.

this is the same as "everybody takes to offense to everything". if you think the world can continue to satisfy everyone, you've obviously got another thing coming. they tried it for a while and it didn't work. it WON'T work. it can't. if it's getting this bad now, I would say just fight the damn war and get it over with like they have always done in the past.

I gave warning about what was touchy in a previous post in this thread. You crossed a line by downplaying the legitimacy of my step-daughter's situation, comparing it to "your brain on drugs." Weasel your way around it all you want. There is a distinction between someone declaring for a religion vs. someone declaring a gender preference.

You can change religions (DAILY if you wish) based on a change of understanding. You can choose to join an inclusive religion or you can choose to join an exclusionary religion. (The latter is easier based on relative availability of each type.) You can even choose to step away from religion entirely, as I did. But if your cerebral physiology is fixed and your brain says you are attracted to what would appear to be the same gender as yourself, you cannot so easily change that. That is NOT your brain on drugs. That is your brain facing a stark reality that instantly sets you aside from others around you in a way that you cannot escape.

I personally know of several people who are gay and who seriously contemplated suicide at different times in their lives because of the bitterness and stigma imposed by inflexible religions and their family members who adhered to that exclusionary style of thinking. I have no use for it. And if you persist in that viewpoint, I have no use for you. But I promised I would not be the one to ban you, so perhaps I'll just ignore you. I have left all of the conversations you started for a reason. Take a hint.

Adam, you say I don't take offense. You are quite wrong. I usually try to not SHOW that I am offended, but in this case you touched that exposed nerve - my family.
 
Adam, you say I don't take offense. You are quite wrong. I usually try to not SHOW that I am offended, but in this case you touched that exposed nerve - my family.
I said nothing about your step-daughter. I must have forgotten about you saying something about it so long ago. but yes, i do remember you mentioning her. I would never say anything bad about her. my statements were in a broad sense. it didn't target any one person. speaking of targeting, I'm crazy disappointed that the word g.o.o.f.b.a.l.l. is censored by Jon's software. that's pretty ridiculous, don't you think? but, off of that horse and on to the next...

You said this:
That is your brain facing a stark reality that instantly sets you aside from others around you in a way that you cannot escape.

i don't deny that people feel that way. and that is perfectly fine. i'm not going to condemn them. it's not my job to figure that out. I have nothing against science either. science is absolutely necessary. I'm just saying, like I've said before, that as people keep knowing more and more, more and more changes like this will happen. you can't change it. it is inevitable. and I'm sure your step-daughter is no different. I don't personally care either way, and I wish her the best in whatever she does regardless of what that is, but it doesn't mean that I think it's normal. and I won't take the "victim" stance either. but in a way, I sort of feel like those people are victims. don't ya think? if not based on the religious nature of them not being appreciated, then based on other things in society?

that's just the way humans are, no? by the way, what do you have against religion and the fact that they didn't welcome her into the circle? the bible clearly states that that kind of behavior is not acceptable, so what do you expect them to do? if they are true to their beliefs, then they obviously have done the right thing. no?
 
the bible clearly states that that kind of behavior is not acceptable, so what do you expect them to do? if they are true to their beliefs, then they obviously have done the right thing. no?

In your "Disobedience" thread, you have my answer. IF the person being exclusionary is wrong in why they are performing the exclusion, then their beliefs are wrong and they HAVE done the wrong thing. This is the inherent flaw with old religions.

In science, when you get new information, you can change your viewpoint based on a new understanding. In religion, new information from a mundane source doesn't matter. You are still stuck in the dark ages. And the new prophets who claim modern revelations are totally disgraced by the old-line religions.
 
In science, when you get new information, you can change your viewpoint based on a new understanding. In religion, new information from a mundane source doesn't matter. You are still stuck in the dark ages. And the new prophets who claim modern revelations are totally disgraced by the old-line religions.
that's because GOD. DOESN'T. CHANGE. nor WILL HE EVER.

that's also why people are bored to death with religion. mass is boring. church service is boring. LIFE is boring. did you YOURSELF not say that weeks ago to me!? I believe the words were something like this:
if you live forever, who would want that? that would get incredibly boring just like this life.
 
God changed after the Great Flood by making the "promise of the rainbow."
 
I'll add that this life is boring because you are a monotonous voice who doesn't get the message. I believe you are cherry-picking, too. The quote included a comment about sitting in Heaven forever at the side of God but with nothing to do other than worship His glory. If that's all that I have in store, that would indeed be boring.
 
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God changed after the Great Flood by making the "promise of the rainbow."
hmmmmm.....REALLY? rainbows are actually nice looking!

I believe you are cherry-picking, too. The quote included a comment about sitting in Heaven forever at the side of God but with nothing to do other than worship His glory.

I don't remember the quote exactly. got a link so we both can have a ref?
 
gosh I hope not. you DID say that I was entertaining. so good for me! not a negative mark!
I really enjoyed reading the discussion until conception_native_0123 joined.
Since then the whole thread has just been accusations, offenses and personal stuff. I think your name is Adam right? The problem with your style of argumentation is that you try to get a reaction out of people by offending them, and later claiming you did not talk about them. You go very personal, and this ruins any interesting discussion. So if you can not argue factual then please refrain from joining these discussions in the future.
 
That's Spot on!

A bit of background information for you on Adam. Adam has been trolling the forum for years now, he is banned frequently, but always comes back to do exactly what you describe.

As you can see from my signature I have used the forums ignore feature so that I don't have to tolerate his nonsense anymore!

It might be an option that you might like to consider.
Then why do you allow him to partake in the discussion?
If you see Adam is trolling just ban him/remove him from this thread.
When Adam is trolling and people get mad it is his joy. If you ban him after having a emotional discussion, then he sees this as a success, and will create another account.
But when he is silenced instantly, when his posts are just removed, what can he do?

I do not want to forbid innocent people who might get emotional to speak, so i see the problem in this statement. But if Adam has a long history of trolling the forum, why should we allow him to partake in the discussion?
#DontFeedTheTrolls
 
Then why do you allow him to partake in the discussion?
If you see Adam is trolling just ban him/remove him from this thread.
When Adam is trolling and people get mad it is his joy. If you ban him after having a emotional discussion, then he sees this as a success, and will create another account.
But when he is silenced instantly, when his posts are just removed, what can he do?

I do not want to forbid innocent people who might get emotional to speak, so i see the problem in this statement. But if Adam has a long history of trolling the forum, why should we allow him to partake in the discussion?
#DontFeedTheTrolls
Asked and answered. There has been MUCH discussion about this in other Forums that not all members are privy to. Best thing to so is either ignore whatever his current UserName is or simply exercise some personal restraint and ignore it as you would a grumpy 2 year old.

Trying to reason with him is like wrestling a pig - YOU get dirty, the pig likes it.

Mod edit: Ignore meaning click the Ignore button so you don't see the posts.
 
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