why is this place so republican?

[NauticalGent]

Last post on this subject.

Apparently not...and that is good. Dialogue is always good IF emotion is left out.

 

[JonXL]

Why do Americans say 'math' instead of 'maths'? If you use the full word, Americans add the 's' but not in the short version.
Col

If we used the full word, we'd also add the E, M, A, T, I, and C.

What is your point?

 

[Pat Hartman]

And Trump never lies.

Hmmm. If you take the COVID "vaccine" and all the boosters we tell you to take, you won't catch COVID. Apparently lies that many stooges, like Racheal Maddow repeat, aren't lies. But truths that FB and Google suppress are lies. Are we living in 1984?

Please tell me ONE "lie" that Trump told the public that potentially injured you. Unlike the lie above and Obama's famous "If you like your doctor, you can keep your doctor" when he knew damn well that was a lie as he said it because as the people who constructed the Affordable Care Act testified to Congress that the told him, all existing plans would be rendered illegal. Not only that but in addition to a complete restructuring of medical plans, only poor people would actually benefit because their plans would be "free". The average American would end up paying more. But these particular lies, like the COVID lies caused people to make wrong decisions that actually jeopardized their health.

I know the left says Trump lies all the time but if you can get past your TDS, listen to what they accuse him of lying about, you will find that they are differences of opinion. And Trump has never been allowed to have an opinion that the left disagreed with. I happen to disagree with him on a number of topics but we are talking about opinions not facts. Such as - Trump thinks Julian Assange is a criminal and should be punished and I disagree I think WikiLeaks is a publisher just like the NYT. I'm not sure I would publish everything they did but it is not criminal for them to do so if it is not criminal for the NYT. The problem is that Assange seriously embarrassed the US government and they are unforgiving. When the President of the United States of America says multiple times that if you take this "emergency use only drug" It will PREVENT you from catching a dangerous disease, it was propaganda used to control the great unwashed and get them to get in line to follow directions even when the directions were contradictory and nonsensical and it worked. The drug manufacturers never even claimed that.

Now the people who accused the rest of us who questioned the non-science of trying to murder the believers are asking for forgiveness. I'll forgive, when you admit you were duped and apologize for being such asses so we can prevent this from ever happening again. Lives and businesses were destroyed. Children lost two years of education and were terrified by being forced to wear masks that didn't protect them but which did hamper their socialization. Who knows what psychopaths are now growing up. Billions of dollars were spent unnecessarily. Our unborn grandchildren will be paying for this debacle. And they want to just forgive and forget??? And we are STILL discharging people from the armed forces for refusing to take a "vaccine" that they don't need because they're young and healthy and which won't actually prevent them from getting the disease.

 

[moke123]

And he doesn't have to

And Trump said they were not. Too bad the FBI insisted that there be no witnesses from Trump's staff. Wonder why they didn't want Trump's lawyers to be present Wonder why they insisted that all cameras be turned off If they were not doing anything illegal, what were they hiding? MAYBE, they should have requested camera coverage so there would be no dispute regarding what they removed or did not remove from Trump's desk

Why hasn't trump released the footage of the search that he and his family watched as it was ongoing?

Trump and his family watched FBI raid on security footage, lawyer claims

“I think the folks in New York, President Trump and his family, probably had a better view than I did because they had the CCTV, they were able to watch,” Christina Bobb told Real America’s V…

nypost.com

https://www.cnn.com/2022/08/17/politics/trump-release-surveillance-footage-fbi-mar-a-lago

 

[Pat Hartman]

Why hasn't trump released the footage of the search that he and his family watched as it was ongoing?

What footage? Are you saying that the Trump people disobeyed a direct order from the FBI to disable all cameras Why did the FBI want the cameras disabled to begin with? Also, I'm pretty sure there wouldn't be cameras in Melania's closet or Trump's office so there wouldn't be anything to see. BUT THERE SHOULD BE!!!!!!!!!!!! All of those agents should have been wearing cameras. Why were they NOT wearing cameras? What was the secret they were trying to hide? When the FBI takes sinister steps, it does not look good for their motives especially given their history of persecuting Trump et al. They should have all been wearing cameras to protect themselves. Screw Trump. If the FBI was clean, then THEY would have video of every single minute for every single person on the premises. Didn't they know this would end up as a cluster****? Of course they did, they're not stupid, and that is exactly what they wanted. They wanted a he said - they said. How else could they lie? They couldn't lie if they had video of everything they did. Duh!!!!!!!!!

When you enter the private quarters of the former President and the likely opposition candidate in the next election with armed men, no idiot would rely on anything except color video with sound of everything unless they wanted chaos. This smacks of banana republic methods to keep Trump from running again in 2024. I don't care how much you hate him or how irrational that hatred might be. Are we a banana republic? You don't even know a crime has been committed. What are you people thinking??????????????????

The IRS and the FBI have been persecuting Trump, his family, his businesses, and his close associates for years. They are using the "show me the man and I'll show you the crime methods" employed by Stalin, J. Edgar Hoover, Obama, and all the other dictators in modern times. Auditing Trump and all his businesses every single year is PERSECUTION. If he's cheating, throw the book at him. If not, leave him alone. Are they auditing Jeff Bezos every year as well as his businesses? I doubt it. I hope these companies are getting audited every year -- https://www.thestreet.com/investing/30-biggest-companies-that-paid-zero-taxes. Maybe having their private homes raided in case they took home some incriminating documents.

 

[moke123]

Are you saying that the Trump people disobeyed a direct order from the FBI to disable all cameras Why did the FBI want the cameras disabled to begin with? Also, I'm pretty sure there wouldn't be cameras in Melania's closet or Trump's office so there wouldn't be anything to see. BUT THERE SHOULD BE!!!!!!!!!!!! All of those agents should have been wearing cameras. Why were they NOT wearing cameras? What was the secret they were trying to hide?

Where do you come up with this stuff? You do realize that they photograph evidence in situ right? I would guess that there are a couple hundred or so, if not more, photographs and videos of the search efforts. You do know that an evidence officer is assigned who is tasked with documenting everything found in writing, with photos, and by who. Did you think that photo of the evidence that was released is the only one? That putz really has you convinced he's a victim.

 

[AccessBlaster]

I see Shepard Smith is out at CNBC, their new president wants to focus on business. It seems promoting Trump 24/7 isn't good for CNBC, CNN, or MSNBC.

 

[The_Doc_Man]

Hillary Clinton, Secretary of State has NO SUCH AUTHORITY to unilaterally declassify documents. PERIOD.

I'm going to quibble on a very, very fine point. While HRC was still Secretary of State, it was in her power to be officially declared as the classification authority for her department, in which case she could have had authority to declassify documents. Whether she actually requested that, much less got such a declaration, is a different question. But a cabinet level department head CAN become a CA for her department's documents.

Now, I said it was a fine point. It COULD have happened that she declassified those documents - but it didn't.

The reason we know it didn't is because the documents that WERE found had not been re-marked to show classification reduction. Therefore, whether she had the authority or not, she DIDN'T change classifications. We know that because marking requirements for previously classified documents. Declassified documents MUST include a classification history showing the process of declassification.

 

[The_Doc_Man]

Why do Americans say 'period'? Then put a full stop after it.
Col

Col: It is a written-verbal emphasis technique that also is used in speech. Supposedly intended to indicate that there will be or is to be no further discussion on the subject. In other words, the thing that preceded the emphasis-period is the last word on the subject.

 

[The_Doc_Man]

Why do Americans say 'math' instead of 'maths'? If you use the full word, Americans add the 's' but not in the short version.
Col

Now there, Col, you've got me. I could try to look it up, but I've never heard an explanation of that. All I can say is that it has been that way since I was still in what the USA calls "grade school" - and that is over 60 years ago.

 

[Jon]

I think I read something years ago that some letters were omitted from American English to save ink when using typewriters and printing. For example, color instead of color. Maybe math is another example?

 

[Pat Hartman]

Math is an abbreviation of mathematics. We use the first four letters which is the common way to abbreviate words. You use the first four and the last 1. Is that how you abbreviate other words. Like Customer as Custr?

 

[Pat Hartman]

Where do you come up with this stuff? You do realize that they photograph evidence in situ right?

I don't think the papers were spread all over the floor when they were found so the FBI put them there. In fact, they have admitted as much. In situ, would have been photographing them in the desk drawer. I'm going to stick with -
Defund the FBI. They are being used as a political tool.

 

[KitaYama]

Off topic :

Math is an abbreviation of mathematics.

But why the national disparity? While many differences between British and American English can be traced to Webster’s 1828 dictionary, which codified our favors and centers and realizations in defiance of the estranged motherland’s favours and centres and realisations, this one can’t. Webster didn’t include any abbreviations for mathematics in his masterwork. Anecdotal evidence suggests that notions of which words qualify as mass nouns vary widely across English-speaking countries. For instance, one Lexicon Valley reader email—or, one piece of Lexicon Valley reader email—revealed that, in South Africa, most English speakers treat email as a countable noun (“I’ve got a lot of emails”), and never a mass noun (“Please forward email to this address”). In the United States, we seem to want it both ways.

The Lynneguist points out that the pluralizing S is far more “productive”—more likely to actually appear in a context where it might go in theory—than the noun-marking S that perches like a grace note at the end of acoustics. So it stands to reason people will frequently mistake the second S for the first, especially with common words like mathematics. And perhaps it also stands to reason that an English-speaking culture more ostensibly concerned with proper usage will give heightened credence to their grammarly intuition when it tells them to insert an S, even where none is required. Really, though, fate and chance factor into linguistic trends as much as anything. It only takes a few solemn Oxford whizzes talking about maths before much of London catches on, and then Australia, and then … you do the maths.

From:

Why Do Brits Say Maths and Americans Say Math?

The Imitation Game, a glossy new biopic about the British cryptanalyst Alan Turing, features a lot of maths. Characters take advanced maths classes...

slate.com

 

[Jon]

Math is an abbreviation of mathematics. We use the first four letters which is the common way to abbreviate words. You use the first four and the last 1. Is that how you abbreviate other words. Like Customer as Custr?

I haven't heard of the first 4 letters thing before. So I did a quick Google and came up with: IQ, Mr, Mrs, MA, CEO, DIY, Dr., NW, MD, CFO, PA. It seems to vary quite a lot. Not sure if things like LOL are considered abbreviations or not, or come under some kind of alternative definition?

Edit: LOL of course is an acronym, not an abbreviation. And that also means IQ, CEO, MD etc comes under acronym too.

 

[Pat Hartman]

LOL is an acronym. I just picked 4 because it was what we use for Math. You are right abbreviations vary in length but they don't take first and last the way maths does.

 

[Jon]

I think Dr does (D octo r), for example. And Mr (M iste r). Strangely, Mrs has an r in it even though it is an abbreviation of missus.

 

[NauticalGent]

I think Dr does (D octo r), for example. And Mr (M iste r). Strangely, Mrs has an r in it even though it is an abbreviation of missus.

I almost hate to give Colin this ammo, but I your post reminds me of an email I sent out recently. Becuase I was referring to two male individuals, I used the title "Messrs." as in "Messrs. Smith and Jones".

One of the SENIOR members (supposedly with a masters degree) on the email asked me "Who is Messrs?"

 

[conception_native_0123]

Maybe math is another example?

math = maths?

 

[Jon]

Perhaps some of these terms have fallen out of popular use. For example, nowadays I don't know if I should use Mrs or Ms if sending a letter to a woman. Anyone know? Can anyone define what a woman is nowadays, or would doing so mean you are sexist and mysogynistic?