why is this place so republican?

[Isaac]

The media MADE him a polarizing figure, as they will ANY opposition to their platform - the other side plays the same game.

I agree, I think that's partly true - but he made it a bit too easy. He wasn't the first republican leader in history that the media wished to destroy and make appear crazy.....but he occasionally made it a bit too easy.

@The_Doc_Man I agree that we need someone other than Trump at this point. Most people on the conservative side are quite capable of seeing all of the good principles that he had as far as both foreign and domestic policy, and would likely continue/restart most of them. But right now, whether it's his fault, media's fault, or a little of both, Trump is just too much baggage. The momentum AGAINST him is too strong and too entrenched and (probably much more importantly):: Already too well-sold to many of the American people.

I think someone like DeSantis has a pretty good shot. I keep telling people Candace Owens but it goes nowhere.
Do people realize how much of a winning ticket that would be? Even, say, DeSantis/Owens. We would easily pick up some votes that, let's just say, we don't normally get - and she is brilliant, second to none in every type of situation, debate, conversation, Q&A, etc. Imagine picking up just a tiny FRACTION of the Democrats' female and black votes. Just a tiny fraction and we'd win in a landslide!

 

[Isaac]

@conception_native_0123
Do you consider yourself closer to Republican or Democrat? And don't take this "I am nothing of the sort" tack that's become so popular now. The truth is most people are pretty easily pegged as closer to one or the other, despite everyone claiming to loathe both, entirely.
Just out with it.
Why did you ask this question?

I remember in my early days, which were the early days of at least 2-3 of your iterations, but probably not your actual early days by far, you seemed to be more conservative than liberal by a long shot. Until, as I remember, I said something about section 8 or HUD housing at which point I received a fireball of some kind back! Honestly I can't even remember what I said. Anyway.

Or, did you just want to start something, like when Colin asks something like "Why is Trump so bad?", or, "Does everyone walk around shooting each other in America?", etc. etc.

 

[KitaYama]

I'm Republican, though I know it has become more and more rare these days to dare identify as such. People seem to think that if you say I'm Such-and-Such, that means you are ready to defend anything and everything they have ever done or will ever do or are doing now.
Of course, that's not true.

"When faced with the Democrat vs. Republican ballot choice, I practically always choose Republican".

I think these two sections contradict each other. Or at least is very confusing.

 

[KitaYama]

Since the day I joined AWF (6 months ago?) and started reading political posts, I was convinced that US is an all-Republican country ruled by Democrats. It's very rare somebody post anything in the favor of Democrat party.

 

[The_Doc_Man]

Since the day I joined AWF (6 months ago?) and started reading political posts, I was convinced that US is an all-Republican country ruled by Democrats. It's very rare somebody post anything in the favor of Democrat party.

I guess this falls back to Adam's original question. Why is it that so many of us USA members on the forum lean away from the Democratic party? But that makes me wonder even more about our non-USA members who live in countries where THEY have a choice in voting.

Adam (@conception_native_0123) asked about the USA political parties by selecting their symbols - a donkey and an elephant. But I wonder about the political parties in other countries now... liberal / socialism parties, conservative / capitalist parties, labor-centric parties, other orientations. I know that the UK has many parties that tend to favor some aspect of citizen interest.

Would any of the UK members care to classify themselves according to the subject of interest for their parties?

 

[Dick7Access]

As I mentioned earlier, Trump takes no prisoners. His "problem" is he says the things that people think but don't say. That is is lack of a filter and it doesn't matter whether it offends the Republicans or the Democrats.

If Trump decides not to run, he would be a good choice but we actually need Trump even more than we did in 2016 and Florida needs DeSantis. DeSantis is already being attacked by the Media and treated almost as badly as Trump is in preparation for just such an event. DeSantis is too new to the game to be able to stand up to the constant ad hominem attacks. If Trump opens his mouth, he's a liar, he's a racist, he hates transgender people, he hates women because he is pro choice. On and on and on - it is absolutely all out warfare. They just don't stop and the Republicans just cower in the corner and refuse to stand up for the Constitution which is really what Trump and DeSantis are doing.

Amen

 

[conception_native_0123]

Are you TRYING to give me a stroke?

never!

 

[conception_native_0123]

Why did you ask this question?

honestly, I don't even know the diff between rebpulican and libertarian. i don't know which I am, but I know I'm not a dem. at least not in the majority of me. I asked the ? in part because there seems to be a lot of bitching about democrats here and in the political forum, so I just assumed that the majjority of the bitchers are republicans.

 

[Isaac]

I think these two sections contradict each other. Or at least is very confusing.

Sorry, but I cannot see any contradiction at all in these 2 things:

1) I don't defend every single thing the Republicans do
2) I always vote Republican rather than Democrat.

 

[KitaYama]

Sorry, but I cannot see any contradiction at all in these 2 things:

1) I don't defend every single thing the Republicans do
2) I always vote Republican rather than Democrat.

Maybe it's because of my level of English that causes me think they are contradicting each other. Maybe our culture.
But if you always vote Republican no matter what, doesn't it mean you are ready to defend anything and everything republicans say?

If not, why you always vote them?

In my case, When I always vote somebody, it means I always support them.
Otherwise I won't use ALWAYS.

Again maybe it's because "Always" is a very strong word in our language and is not used that much.

 

[The_Doc_Man]

I know I tend to vote Republican more often than not, but for our current governor, John Bel Edwards, I supported him because he is actually a moderate, not an extremist of either flavor. Refreshing guy... but sadly, term-limited now.

 

[conception_native_0123]

I know I tend to vote Republican more often than not, but for our current governor, John Bel Edwards, I supported him because he is actually a moderate, not an extremist of either flavor. Refreshing guy... but sadly, term-limited now.

A non extremist for a candidate is hard to find in this day and age Richard. I applaud you for your vote.

 

[Isaac]

But if you always vote Republican no matter what, doesn't it mean you are ready to defend anything and everything republicans say?

Umm....No, it doesn't mean that at all.
The most that you could conclude would be that each time I vote, Republicans are the better choice.

In order to be "the better choice", must they be flawless? Of course not - just better

 

[conception_native_0123]

each time I vote, Republicans are the better choice.

i feel that way A LOT of times during voting season.

 

[The_Doc_Man]

A non extremist for a candidate is hard to find in this day and age Richard. I applaud you for your vote.

TBH, more likely you should applaud me for my luck in having such a candidate. The vote was easy. Getting him past the primaries was tricky.

 

[AngelSpeaks]

Once upon I time, I would vote for a democrat, but with the lastest BS they've pulled, it would take a real JFK type candidate for me to vote blue. I grew up in Chicago and I have seen the worst kind of political BS and corruption done locally and statewide. A common phrase is vote early and often and that those residing in cemeteries vote democrat.

 

[NauticalGent]

it would take a real JFK type candidate for me to vote blue.

He was real unpopular with conservatives of the time - there are even reports where some were even cheering his demise. After reading on some of his policies, I'm not completely sold on how good history has been to him.

If the conspiracy theorists are accurate about how his death was tied to his authorizing Silver Certificates, then I applaud him, but for the most part, his policies were socialist smell to them.

He garnered 19% of the popular vote depriving H.W. Bush a second term and giving Bill Clinton the win.

I haven't been able to find anything definitive on the idea that Perot's voters would have voted republican or democrat. For every article I find supporting one view, there is another debunking it. It has been repeated so often (like the Jane Fonda/POW story) that most people just accept it has facts.

I went looking for "proof" years ago when Ron Paul was in the running to show others that a 3rd party candidate does not necessarily guarantee an DNC win, but again, I could not find anything that proves or disproves this.

As I have said before, I am so disillusioned with our politics and how the American people have been programmed - and what is worse, refuse to accept that they have - that I no longer vote on the in the presidential election and spend my time supporting local and state governments.

 

[Isaac]

He was real unpopular with conservatives of the time - there are even reports where some were even cheering his demise. After reading on some of his policies, I'm not completely sold on how good history has been to him.

If the conspiracy theorists are accurate about how his death was tied to his authorizing Silver Certificates, then I applaud him, but for the most part, his policies were socialist smell to them.

I haven't been able to find anything definitive on the idea that Perot's voters would have voted republican or democrat. For every article I find supporting one view, there is another debunking it. It has been repeated so often (like the Jane Fonda/POW story) that most people just accept it has facts.

I went looking for "proof" years ago when Ron Paul was in the running to show others that a 3rd party candidate does not necessarily guarantee an DNC win, but again, I could not find anything that proves or disproves this.

As I have said before, I am so disillusioned with our politics and how the American people have been programmed - and what is worse, refuse to accept that they have - that I no longer vote on the in the presidential election and spend my time supporting local and state governments.

Agreed, it's hard to tell for sure.

A lot of people assume Independent really means, "I would otherwise be Democrat", but think of Rand Paul. Yes, he registers as Republican, but I believe he could easily be libertarian, and I personally think of him as more like that. If he ran as an Independent or whatever else, he would be taking Republican votes surely.

 

[AccessBlaster]

 

[conception_native_0123]

TBH, more likely you should applaud me for my luck in having such a candidate.

can you think of any other states that have moderates as in-office people right now?