The diary of Anne Frank is falling behind

[jpl458]

In order to protect the children, the Florida Governor is causing books to be banned. 208 children die from guns/ year in Florida. For the last year the score is;
Guns 208, Anne Frank 0

 

[jpl458]

I was trying to make the point that the Governor says he's protecting children, but won't address any part of what is the leading cause of death among kids. Don't really know how you got to a dystopian future with this. It was the Nazi's, the people on the right, that went after the girl.

 

[The_Doc_Man]

I was trying to make the point that the Governor says he's protecting children, but won't address any part of what is the leading cause of death among kids. Don't really know how you got to a dystopian future with this. It was the Nazi's, the people on the right, that went after the girl.

The dystopian future comes when, like in the book Fahrenheit 451, books are burned for "seditious" knowledge - such as simple romance between two different people. It comes when people are told what to think and what to not think. It comes when "right-think" becomes dogma in the book 1984. There are forces out there who want to control your mind - and they are succeeding more often than they used to.

 

[jpl458]

Books were burned it late 30s Germany. What is going on in Florida, and elsewhere is the functional equivalent of book burning. Autocrates can't handle the inclusion of different ideas because they might lose power. In addition, the manufacturing of a common enemy is a way of keeping people in line. I don't remember who authored this line, "Give me a child til he's 5 years old, the rest of his life his mind is mine", but sadly, it works.. I also note that the right seems to suffer from projection. They want to control the books in schools yet they claim that the left has some master plan of indoctrination, when they want to carry out that very thing. I believe that there is one thing missing from our educational system, instruction in Critical Thinking, something that the far right lacks. remember that one of the proofs of the idea that the election was rigged, came from a time traveling woman, who hears things in the wind. That was from Sidney Powell, one of the former presidents lawyers.

 

[jpl458]

You make it sound like the left is an ultra organized group. I don't think that is possible. Who is the master mind behind this left? Do they have meetings, or is there a manifesto I can read? Who is in charge of the deep state? Is not compromise an integral part of democracy?

 

[ebs17]

@Pat Hartman : Better more fossil fuels (progress needs more) than regenerative energies - the forests of california are not burning enough, and how stupid, the fires do not distinguish between left and right.
In France, a case of winter drought has now hit the media: a lake at the foot of snow-covered mountains has already practically dried up over the winter due to lack of rain.

 

[ebs17]

The "environmental" lobby doesn't understand natural systems

It is, of course, more convincing that profit-oriented corporations understand nature much better and are transforming it into an eternal paradise with their desired unrestrained growth.

People need the earth, the earth does not need people. In maybe 5 million years, there will be a new herd of apes that could become something.

 

[jpl458]

Never had sex education all the time I was in school, not in class anyway. When did this start happening and at what age is it being taught. Is the left forcing kiddies change their gender, or just explaining that some folks are different?. My original point was, whoever it is that said they wanted to protect kids by taking the Diary of Anne Frank off the library shelf, won't do anything about the number one cause of death in young people, which is guns. So the idea of protecting kid as a reason seems pretty hollow to me. I hunted when I was younger and owned a lot of different guns, and was a stock maker, and repaired antique firearms that had wood problems. In my opinion if you have a gun you should need a license to own it, like having a driver license. I don't think the framers considered the assault rifle when then wrote the second amendment. All the guns back then were muzzle loaders,There were 13 States and all of them were mostly rural. Guns are made to do 3 things; punch holes in paper, punch holes in animals, or punch holes in people. They have no other use. Why does anyone need a clip that hold 30 rounds? Or an assault rifle. Someone once asked me, knowing I had several guns, which one I would use for personal protection. I told him I would take this trigger finger an dial 911.

Pat, I agree that you let the fires burn if they started naturally.

 

[AccessBlaster]

Why does anyone need a clip that hold 30 rounds? Or an assault rifle.

Umm, because you live near a liberal city or state that is soft on crime. liberals in general cause gun sales to spike every time they open their mouth.

 

[jpl458]

To paraphrase, people with guns kill people, not always, but often enough. I don't think Texas is that liberal.

 

[AngelSpeaks]

Why does anyone need a clip that hold 30 rounds? Or an assault rifle.

Why does anyone need a $100,000 auto?

It's called personal choice.

 

[KitaYama]

Why does anyone need a clip that hold 30 rounds? Or an assault rifle.

Why does anyone need a $100,000 auto?
It's called personal choice.

You're comparing a car with a mass murder machine?
And because someone loves and buys a Lamborghini, someone else should be free to have a full auto weapon because of his personal choice?
Isn't there any law to limit one's personal choice?

The other day I was watching the trial of Nikolas Cruz in Instagram. He killed 17 students, and injured another 17 including 3 teachers.
All the while, There was only one question in my mind. Why would he be able to have access to an AR-15 machine and fire 180 rounds of ammunition?

The same weapon was used in 2012 Colorado, leaving 12 dead 58 injured.

Those of us who live outside of States, will never understand why mass murder and mass shootings never end.
But reading this thread, I think I have the answer now.

 

[AngelSpeaks]

It's only a mass murder machine if the user uses it that way. Recently in the US and Canada, a vehicle was used as a mass murder machine by driving the vehicle into a crowd of people. In the 1980s, in my home state, some pyscho, who was never caught, used Tylenol as a mass killing machine. And let's not forget 9/11/2001, Osama bin Laden used four 747s to kill over 3000 people in NYC, PA, and The Pentagon.

As Pat says, people kill.

 

[AngelSpeaks]

On an AR15 is a semi automatic weapon. I've actually held one in my hand at the range. AR does not stand for automatic weapon.

 

[AngelSpeaks]

It stands for Armalite, after the company that designed it.

'America's gun': Truths, myths about AR guns

The name "AR" is not an abbreviation for "assault rifle" or "automatic rifle," as commonly misreported.

abc7chicago.com

 

[moke123]

On an AR15 is a semi automatic weapon. I've actually held one in my hand at the range. AR does not stand for automatic weapon.

Until you add a 3d printed bump stock.

 

[KitaYama]

It's only a mass murder machine if the user uses it that way. Recently in the US and Canada, a vehicle was used as a mass murder machine by driving the vehicle into a crowd of people. In the 1980s, in my home state, some pyscho, who was never caught, used Tylenol as a mass killing machine. And let's not forget 9/11/2001, Osama bin Laden used four 747s to kill over 3000 people in NYC, PA, and The Pentagon.

I really don't understand your logic. How many times a vehicle was used for a mass murder? How many time in human history a 747 was used to kill so many people? Only once or twice?
Are you again comparing a machine gun that is designed to be used in war scenes and kill, with something that is designed for travel and is mis-used?

As Pat says, people kill.

Yes. that's true. But put a Bazuka in his hand and see how easier he kills. Put a knife in A's hand and an AR-15 in B's hand. And ask them to start killing. See which one wins the game. Yes, it's people who kill. The problem is how convenient you make it for them to kill.

AR does not stand for automatic weapon.

Does it really makes any difference what it stands for and is it Automatic or semi-Auto?
It's a weapon designed to be used in military.
You pick some mistakes in my comment and put your stress on them. Did you realize what was my point? Cruz fired 180 bullets. All classrooms where empty or with aa few students. He could have killed 180 people if he could find a full classroom. Does it make any difference if A-15 is semi and not automatic?

From How the AR-15 Became Mass Shooters’ Weapon of Choice

THE AR-15 ASSAULT rifle was engineered to create what one of its designers called “maximum wound effect.” Its tiny bullets – needle-nosed and weighing less than four grams – travel nearly three times the speed of sound. As the bullet strikes the body, the payload of kinetic energy rips open a cavity inside the flesh – essentially inert space – ...........
Versions of the AR-15 have been the U.S. military’s standard-issue assault rifle in every war since Vietnam. But only in the past dozen years have semi-automatic models become a fixture of American life. Gun-makers – emboldened by Congress and cloaked in the Second Amendment – have elevated the AR-15 into an avatar of civilian manhood, independence and patriotism. In the process, this off-patent combat rifle has become an infinitely customizable weapon platform that now accounts for nearly one in five guns sold in America. The federal government has deemed them “semi-automatic assault rifles” with magazine capacities that serve “no sporting purpose.” But the National Rifle Association now simply calls the AR-15 “America’s Rifle.”

 

[AngelSpeaks]

Until you add a 3d printed bump stock.

But normally it isn't. Just like texting isn't dangerous unless you're driving while doing it. Then your vehicle is a dangerous weapon.

 

[AngelSpeaks]

I really don't understand your logic. How many times a vehicle was used for a mass murder? How many time in human history a 747 was used to kill so many people? Only once or twice?
Are you again comparing a machine gun that is designed to be used in war scenes and kill, with something that is designed for travel and is mis-used?


Yes. that's true. But put a Bazuka in his hand and see how easier he kills. Put a knife in A's hand and an AR-15 in B's hand. And ask them to start killing. See which one wins the game. Yes, it's people who kill. The problem is how convenient you make it for them to kill.



Does it really makes any difference what it stands for and is it Automatic or semi-Auto?
It's a weapon designed to be used in military.
You pick some mistakes in my comment and put your stress on them. Did you realize what was my point? Cruz fired 180 bullets. All classrooms where empty or with aa few students. He could have killed 180 people if he could find a full classroom. Does it make any difference if A-15 is semi and not automatic?

From How the AR-15 Became Mass Shooters’ Weapon of Choice

We're you in the military? The military my husband was in didn't use an AR15. It's irritating that armchair weapons experts try to school actual armchair experts. You take the barrel and handle off the AR15 and you have a semi automatic sidearm. Shooting 180 rounds requires over ten magazines. Over 3000 people killed in one morning by weaponizing a passenger airplane.

The majority of these mass shooters were on the FBIs radar and they did nothing. The Parkland shooter was the result of a whacko alcoholic, drug addicted birth mother. Name more than one mass shooter that didn't have a history of mental illness. The Parkland shooter's adoptive mother knew he had a mental illness but was criminally negligent in allowing him access to her firearms. Gun laws prohibit allowing access to those who shouldn't and those who do should face the same charges. Unless they become the first victims and believe me I won't mourn them.

 

[moke123]

Shooting 180 rounds requires over ten magazines.

Not quite.

the parkland shooter:

The shooter had fired about 150 times when he dropped his AR-15-style rifle and escaped from school property by blending in with fleeing students. He left 180 rounds of ammo unused, the official said.