How many genders are there?

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https://archbishopcranmer.com/teacher-throws-student-out-of-class-for-insisting-there-are-two-sexes/

I’m a bit confused—I’ve always thought there were only two genders. Is this simply a misunderstanding about how the term gender is being used?

From watching Dr. Jordan B. Peterson, I gather there are dozens of pronouns—perhaps 70 or more—that people can choose to describe their identity. I’ve heard of “zee” and “zer,” but there seem to be countless others.

I understand why the gender issue has brought this video into the spotlight. Still, I think the core problem lies in the clash between the student and the teacher. The student comes across as stubborn and disruptive in class, and that seems to be the real reason for the exclusion.

 

[The_Doc_Man]

First, Uncle G, I agree that part of the problem in the article is a disruptive student.

There are fundamentalist groups that would say that there are only two sexes. They will adapt their language if you point out to them that these days, due to multiple meanings of the word sex, we use gender (just as the word "gay" no longer can be used to mean "happy and light-hearted" because it has been adapted for other use).

Where the problem comes in is that gender (in the physiological sense) and gender identity are distinct and can differ. Further, there are cases where children are born with variant chromosome situations or reproductive structures where there is a lack of clarity as to which way the child will go. And it appears that the brain can have more than just two different configurations, which makes one wonder about various brain-body combinations.

regarding physical brain differences including structural differences:

https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/111663.php

https://www.newscientist.com/article/dn14146-gay-brains-structured-like-those-of-the-opposite-sex/

https://www.newscientist.com/articl...tural-selection-cannot-explain-homosexuality/

Regarding XXY:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Klinefelter_syndrome

You can search for Klinefelter Syndrome and see behavioral issues as well as physical ones.

The old term "hermaphrodite" comes to mind here. It is a non-scientific term that is yet another physical condition clouding the picture of sexual variation.

http://www.isna.org/faq/what_is_intersex

How many genders are there? The fact is that two genders are not enough even when you limit yourself to physiology since there IS such a thing as the brain and the body being in disagreement. When the wiring and the plumbing disagree, you have either a homosexual or a bisexual. When that happens, the language requires either some special word (usually taken as a pejorative) or you have to use a descriptive phrase. Therefore I cannot tell you how many genders there really are, but there exists a spectrum of behaviors for which the extremes of the spectrum are "traditional male" and "traditional female."

The articles I posted regarding brain structure represent findings using brain scans on homosexual people. The fact that the brain scans can detect the situation very strongly suggests something else: Brain structure is fixed during gestation; therefore, homosexuals are born that way. (Do I hear Lady Gaga singing in the background?)

 

[Vassago]

Sexuality, genetic chromosomes, and gender and not the same thing and are not mutually exclusive.

 

[The_Doc_Man]

That non-exclusive nature is exactly what makes this question so hard to answer.

 

[Deleted member 147267]

Your question implies that the concept of gender is somehow exclusive to the human race, which I would offer is not the case. There are several examples of life that are neither one or the other, or are both at the same time.

 

[Mark_]

Just to confuse things, Complete androgen insensitivity syndrome means that your can have a normal XY pair but be female in all other respects.

 

[Uncle Gizmo]

Well, I don't really know what to think. However my instinct is that there are two genders, and that's how I see people.

When I see a transgender person often a man posing as a woman, then most of the time I see an unfortunate person who needs my sympathy and understanding.

Occasionally I actually see a woman. For example, in the latest series of designated survivor there is a transgender man, who is now the sister-in-law of the president. Now to me this person is no longer male, and has successfully transformed into a female. She also played a character in "sense8"....

I don't seem to have the same problem with women that transgender into a man. They are oftenso manly and male looking that I would never know that they were once female.

My take on it is there are a few that are genuinely stuck in the wrong gender type for whatever biological reason, however I am convinced that there are many that are confused and vulnerable.

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[Galaxiom]

Well, I don't really know what to think. However my instinct is that there are two genders, and that's how I see people.

Instincts often lead to mistaken conclusions.

 

[Uncle Gizmo]

LOL

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[Isaac]

Instincts often lead to mistaken conclusions.

And mistaken ideas or conclusions often lead to twisted instincts, as is the case with most violent crime.

 

[kevlray]

The last time I checked, the rest of the animal kingdom has a maximum of two genders (sometimes they can change their gender during their lifetime, but still a maximum of two).

 

[Uncle Gizmo]

but still a maximum of two

I agree, although, I have a vague recollection of some species that has three 3 genders, although this might relate to a science fiction story!

 

[oleronesoftwares]

The last time I checked, the rest of the animal kingdom has a maximum of two genders (sometimes they can change their gender during their lifetime, but still a maximum of two).

One of the wisest statements I have heard or read on this topic anywhere.

 

[Uncle Gizmo]

JDP being excellent as usual!

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[Uncle Gizmo]

Click Bait and switch!

Gender changed female to male gets cancelled because "he's" a white male!!!

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[Uncle Gizmo]

Good clip on gender dysphoria...

"I think that's CRUELTY!" Chuck Todd was NOT expecting THIS answer from Vivek Ramaswamy

Liberal network host of NBC News' Meet The Press sat down with GOP 2024 candidate Vivek Ramaswamy to press him on his views of gender ideology. Chuck Todd wa...

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[Isaac]

Yeah, vivEK really sums it up pretty easily. It's obviously a disorder and let's not encourage and try to instigate more of it as the last year has proved to everyone that it is clearly 99% of the time of direct results of tick tock and other environmental influences.

As to the supporters of it, have none of them actually had kids? Given the fact that they lean progressive, the answer is likely most of them actually have not. Kids will do absolutely anything that they think makes them cool. Right now. The coolest thing you can be is TG

The other day I read a study about a person who was noticing how the video started to get promoted in a rack up views. As soon as someone came out. That's powerful on the emotions and basically like a drug to a young person.

 

[Isaac]

Click Bait and switch!

Gender changed female to male gets cancelled because "he's" a white male!!!

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Yes I always say it's a worldview so full of contradictions it eats itself

 

[The_Doc_Man]

Yeah, vivEK really sums it up pretty easily. It's obviously a disorder and let's not encourage and try to instigate more of it as the last year has proved to everyone that it is clearly 99% of the time of direct results of tick tock and other environmental influences.

As to the supporters of it, have none of them actually had kids? Given the fact that they lean progressive, the answer is likely most of them actually have not. Kids will do absolutely anything that they think makes them cool. Right now. The coolest thing you can be is TG

The other day I read a study about a person who was noticing how the video started to get promoted in a rack up views. As soon as someone came out. That's powerful on the emotions and basically like a drug to a young person.

Isaac, you posted this but I am reacting to the linked video clip, not to you.

Vivek sums it up on the basis of XX/XY chromosome pairs and HE'S WRONG. I have posted links to research that CLEARLY demonstrates that there is more to it than XX/XY chromosomes. The word "disorder" is sometimes generic, sometimes not - but in this context it is used disparagingly. Is "left-handed" a disorder? I simply cannot tolerate people making ignorant comments like Vivek did. He CLAIMS (incorrectly) that DSM-5 calls it a disorder.

https://www.psychiatry.org/psychiatrists/diversity/education/transgender-and-gender-nonconforming-patients/gender-dysphoria-diagnosis

In this link,

With the publication of DSM–5 in 2013, “gender identity disorder” was eliminated and replaced with “gender dysphoria.” This change further focused the diagnosis on the gender identity-related distress that some transgender people experience (and for which they may seek psychiatric, medical, and surgical treatments) rather than on transgender individuals or identities themselves.

The presence of gender variance is not the pathology but dysphoria is from the distress caused by the body and mind not aligning and/or societal marginalization of gender-variant people.

The DSM–5 articulates explicitly that “gender non-conformity is not in itself a mental disorder.”

The LAST thing we need is for people to outright LIE about gender dysphoria. Yes, I am sensitive to this because I have many gay friends and a gay step-daughter. I have seen from close quarters what it is like when closed-minded hatred impinges on the lives of some of the kindest, gentlest people I know. And to be fair, I have also known some gay idiots who needed a good thrashing. Because first and foremost, gay people are PEOPLE just like you and me except they happen to have a different pattern of love life. The main problem is IGNORANCE regarding the effects of imposing YOUR expectations on someone else's life when what they were doing wasn't actually harmful to you, other than to outrage your precious little world-image of how people should behave.

 

[Isaac]

@The_Doc_Man

We're not actively trying to encourage kids to be gay or transgender, right??

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