Controlling the weather
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That is almost the message I've been echoing, though not specific to MTG. It is the ultimate arrogance of Man to think that the world's weather patterns depend on Man's actions. Natural weather patterns have shifted around for years, ... millennia, ... geologic ages.
It similar to trying to control the wave height in an ocean. BTW, Republicn governors are saying the the government is aiding the afffected areas while Trump spreads lies. He has no empathy with the people that need help. He is, and has alway been, a liar.
Doc, she is an idiot. And why doesn't Trumps ay he would like to help the situation in Florida, instead of lying about the response? Trump is only for Trump, not you or me. People are about to suffer in Florida and Trump does not care as long as he gets a political advantage..
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If man didn't believe he could change the weather there would be no need for HAARP or cloud seeding. In the 60s the United
States attempted to weaponize weather against North Vietnam. Not to mention the left's "Holly Grail" climate change.
States attempted to weaponize weather against North Vietnam. Not to mention the left's "Holly Grail" climate change.
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Yet, isn't that exactly what the "global warming" crowd is trying to do?
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Wow, DJT is living rent-free in someone's head. Must be hell...
So you belive that "They" are creating hurricanes and directing them at red states? The oceans are warmer, and heat is the generator of those storms. Seeding clouds is not a form of weather control, and it is not as effective as you might think.
MTG said the the government created hurricane Helene and directed it at Florida, because "they" can control the weather. Fema not responding is a lie. Giving Fema money to migrants is a lie. The Orange faced guy is desparate, if he looses he will spend the rest of his life in courts or prison. There is no proof of any of this, just like there is no emperical evidence that Trump won the last election. "We have no proof, but we have a lot of theories" If the people that went to court didn't have standing, then why did Tump, who had standing, not join the fray? Because he knows that he lost. A lot of people around him at the time have said that he knew he lost.
MGT quote: Republican Congress member Marjorie Taylor Greene posted on X Thursday night: "Yes they can control the weather. It's ridiculous for anyone to lie and say it can't be done." Well , how is this done? Probably using Isreali space lasers.
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It's the same government who created "operation paperclip","operation mockingbird", and about dozen other things people like you won't believe either.
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Which is funny, because the whole liberal theory on global warming and climate change is that we CAN control the weather.
And I agree, they are idiots
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How did Hurricane Milton reach category 5 strength so quickly and when will it make landfall?
Milton is the third fastest-intensifying storm on record in the Atlantic, as experts warn the climate crisis is fueling more powerful storms
www.theguardian.com
weather and climate are not the same thing.
Pat, I was a meterologist, and worked for Robert C. Miller in the severe weather warning center in Kansas city. He was the first person to develop effective means of forecasting severe weather. In a conversation someone put forth the Idea of Nuking a hurricane to shut it down. Col. Miller responded with a lengthy response stating the hurricanes use heat to form. Dropping a Nuke would create a storm of collosal proportions. Man, and the industrial age have contributed significantly to the currant climate situation. In ages past the cause of warming was helped by volcanic activity. This was shown by examining the air trapped in ice from various periods in the past. Just science.
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An obvious but pointless remark. The global warming fanatics like to say that we need to stop generating greenhouse gases that are warming the planet. Well warming changes both the weather and climate, so by supposedly controlling greenhouse gases; you are actually trying to control both the climate and weather. That makes @jpl458 assertion below bogus because that is what the global warming fanatics are proposing.
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Just to amplify Pat's comment a bit, there is this little thing called "The Carbon Cycle" that describes how sunlight + CO2 + H2O + chlorophyll (as a pseudo-catalyst) makes plant sugars - nutrients so the plants can grow. If we start a "CO2" removal operation, how will we know when to stop the process? Given that IF it is even possible, there would be a form of momentum in the form of a type of slow dissipation as the localized cleaner air intermixes with the rest of the atmosphere. That means that even if we DID stop, the remnants of what we had already done would continue to change things around because the mixing bowl here is the entire atmosphere of the planet. Which would very negatively impact the world's food supply of vegetables and grain. Which would then impact the world's meat supplies since a lot of the meat we eat depends on plants as food. It isn't that carbon removal couldn't work. It is that overly zealous application thereof would eventually cause starvation.
Producing CO2 in the form of fossile fuels increases the heat of the oceans, that and coriolis effect creats hurricanes. Look at your toilet when you flush it. Coriolis effect causes the waterr to spin counter clockwise. If you get a chance to go south of the equater, the spin is clockwise. I know this because I flushed a toilet south of the equater. It seeems that you agree that there is global warming, but do not think that the actions of man have anything to do with it. At first global warming was deemed a hoax (Bush 41, Trump, DeSantis et al.) Now it's deemed a natural cycle, and there is nothing we can do to avert whats in the future. I guess we will have to hop into one of Elons rockets and wait for the earth to cool down again. BTW, what if you are wrong?
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Whether I'm wrong or not, the poor people of the world will continue to use carbon-footprint fuels in all of the jungle, near-desert, swamp, or tundra villages in all of the still-developing nations. Because most of their parent countries don't have the means to supply any kind of distant-sourced power to them. Solar power doesn't work well during blizzards and other precipitation storms. Wind farms require frequent maintenance and really high winds will topple the rotors. But then, their appliances aren't based on electricity anyway. Go ahead. Tell them that they can't use wood, petroleum products, or even burning fertilizer to cook their food, to heat their baby's milk, to provide hot water for a good (and more sanitary) bath. Tell them that they must be condemned a life of darkness because even a CANDLE is contributing to the carbon footprint. Tell them that they will have to shiver in cold weather and risk freezing their children because you think I'm wrong about the origin of climate change. However, there are enough articles online to suggest that I just MIGHT be right. Look up Milankovich cycles and see if you can find an article about how we are exiting an ice age. That latter shouldn't be difficult.
The REAL solution to our problems is to drastically reduce the number of people in the world by a double-digit percentage and the first digit won't be a 1... or a 2. Good luck with THAT initiative. Before you announce that it has to be done... please notify us of where you will be making this announcement so we can be elsewhere when your time comes.
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For the record, Moke, while you and I have different politics, I DO appreciate a good parody of a song when it is done with wit and a nod to the artistry of the original work.
And also for the record, I do not deny the onset of climate change. I reserve the right to disagree with its purported causes as being primarily man-made. At most, it might be slightly exacerbated by greenhouse gases. But I believe that climate change is the result of a natural long-term weather cycle for which evidence exists of other similar instances from LONG before the onset of the industrial age.
