A Question about TIme and Criteria (1 Viewer)

[Isaac]

SInce we, in America, have either just come here, or we are the progeny of former immigrants, how long, and under what conditions do you, or your family, have to be here before your blood can be poisened by new immagrants. A term that comes to mind, could be "Landed". Once you have meet the criteria of being Landed, then you are no longer a poisiner, but a poisonee. I cannot figure out the time it takes to become Landed, and thus vulnerable. Criteria is less complicated and finite. Could it be race? Could it be origin? I don't know. When the Irish came here in droves between 1851 and 1920 when did they loose their ability to poison the gentry? Same could be said of the Germans, the Italians, or any other group. I remain in search of an answer.

I think you're overthinking it

 

[Pat Hartman]

Trump claims that our blood is being poisoned by immigrants.

Do you really think that he was talking about LEGAL immigrants. Lefties conveniently omit the "illegal" part of this equation.

The man married TWO immigrants and so four of his five children are "half-breeds" .

Think for a minute about how your hatred for Trump colors everything he says

And from the south? I

Yes, they are entering from the south but they are most certainly not Mexicans. They are coming by the droves from Africa and Asia and from Haiti and from Venezuela and every other country in the world where socialism has failed. Probably 90% of the world's countries are represented in any given month. The countries that don't send the illegals are the countries that are stable and functioning which is most of Europe. You can look at this as a race problem but only if you are one of the people who look at others and see RACE written on the foreheads of strangers.

I agree that there should be meaningful legislation regarding immigration

Is there some reason that we can't enforce what we have? When Biden took the oath of office, he swore to uphold the Constitution of the United States. His job as the head of the Executive Branch of the government is to ENFORCE the laws that Congress makes. Biden is ignoring existing laws and giving border agents directives in direct contradiction to existing law. That alone is an impeachable offence. If you don't like the law, CHANGE IT. You can't just ignore it. A country whose justice department picks and chooses which laws to enforce depending on who they like and who they don't like is a Banana Republic. It is not what our Constitution gave us.

So, you are suggesting that a large portion of new immigrants are criminals, and have records of their crimes?

No. 100% of the illegal immigrants are criminals and by calling them "new immigrants" you are conveniently ignoring the fact that their FIRST ACT on American soil is to break our immigration laws. They are "aliens" because that is the common term for non-citizen, it is not a pejorative and they are here ILLEGALLY. Once you are a criminal, you are inclined to commit other criminal acts. The most common is identity theft. My brother is dealing with that now. We don't seem to prosecute illegal aliens for identity theft. Why? Well obviously they need to steal someone else's identity in order to work. Duh! They're just good people trying to get by. Of course that means we could give a flying f*** about the Americana citizen who has to spend money on lawyers and deal with the IRS because they are persecuting MY BROTHER because some criminal stole his identity because they can get to my brother but they can't get to the illegal. What is wrong with this picture????

I KNOW for a fact that the Social Security Administration has computers. Everyone who works in the US MUST have a SS Number. Since the illegal alien can't get one without a birth certificate or green card or naturalization or adoption papers, he has to steal one. Do you think that the SSA could identify SSN's being reported on by multiple employers? Do you think they could dig a little deeper and figure out that if you have income in South Carolina as well as income in New York, maybe, just maybe, there is fraud afoot and investigate. Maybe take some of the 87,000 new IRS agents to investigate this particular fraud. Nope. Not happening, the feds don't want to know. This is not a Democrat problem it is a Uni-party problem. The feckless pieces of dog poo who call themselves Republicans are just as much to blame.

Biden is importing voters.

In fact, in New York, the Democrats were at the hotels where the illegal aliens were staying at MY EXPENSE trying to sign them up to vote. NY conveniently allows "non-citizens" to vote in city elections. But once the illegal alien has a voter registration card, he can vote in any election and that is the point. He needs these people to vote in 2024.

How about Sweden. if they immigrated here would they bring the poison with them?

I'm guessing that if you asked the average Swede on the street, "was it a good idea to allow entry to these unvetted, military age, Muslim men?" The answer would be a resounding NO. Sweden is now the ra** capital of Europe. Women are no longer safe on the streets of their larger cities. Why? Islam condones the ra** of infidels. That's the "poisoning of the blood" that happens when cultures clash.

 

[AccessBlaster]

TDS echo chamber.

 

[Jon]

Trump mentioned poison, not criminality

Wrong. He mentioned both. You have to be a criminal to come from a prison. Get it?

“illegal immigration is poisoning the blood of our nation. They’re coming from prisons, from mental institutions — from all over the world.”

 

[Jon]

Satire, look it up.

So you get racist satire but not analogy or metaphor.

 

[AccessBlaster]

He doesn't want to debate or have a dialog, he just wants to repeat the following in every new thread


"I just want to know how this.....

blah blah blah Donald Trump blah blah blah Hitler, blah blah blah some random fact blah blah blah"

 

[Jon]

It's trolling. Link everything to Hitler. Trump spoke to Putin, just like Hitler spoke with the Russians! Trump used a phrase, just like Hitler! Therefore, Trump is Hitler. Let's turn a blind eye to the rampant Hitleresq anti-semitism sweeping through the liberal institutions. The irrationality of it all reminds me of this picture:

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1710886383953522989

Let's ignore the fact that the queers are supporting a group that throws gays off buildings. Does anyone here know what the punishment is for being gay and a Muslim?

 

[Steve R.]

I just want to know how this poisoning takes place,

Read the books:

The Dying Citizen

The New York Times bestselling author of The Case for Trump explains the decline and fall of the once cherished idea of American citizenship.Human history is...

www.hachettebookgroup.com

The Democrat Party Hates America|Hardcover

INSTANT #1 NEW YORK TIMES BESTSELLER The eight-time #1 New York Times bestselling author, radio host, and Fox News star returns to the page to reveal the radically dangerous Democrat agenda that is upending American life. In American...

www.barnesandnoble.com

Also consider reading Orwell's 1984.

 

[Steve R.]

I agree that there should be meaningful legislation regarding immigration

I bet by "meaningful legislation" you will not include rational concepts such as "remain in Mexico" and immediate deportation (wherever caught in the US.) Please explain what you mean by: "meaningful legislation".

 

[The_Doc_Man]

@jpl458 - the poison is that by entering the USA illegally they therefore bring immediate disrespect to the concept of "rule of law." That disrespect for our law makes them "bad blood" in common parlance. I would think that Mr. Trump's comments DID involve a common metaphoric reference to "bad blood" though he could just as well have said "bad faith" and be equally correct. You don't have to be a lawyer to understand that refusing to obey laws makes one a criminal. And they are disobeying our immigration laws. What part of "disobeying a law" do you not understand?

 

[AccessBlaster]

Wow, it's gonna be time to start a new thread after that zinger.

 

[ColinEssex]

The man married TWO immigrants and so four of his five children are "half-breeds" .

May I ask why it is OK for you to use that term, yet when I used it re Miss Markel, I was called a bigot (by you) then you got Doc to publically give me a verbal warning I would be banned and Doc sent me a PM saying similar? Is it because you are 'super' and I am a lowly foreigner?

So, I'm guessing that as you used the phrase, then it's OK to use it now here.
Col

 

[Isaac]

It's trolling. Link everything to Hitler. Trump spoke to Putin, just like Hitler spoke with the Russians! Trump used a phrase, just like Hitler! Therefore, Trump is Hitler. Let's turn a blind eye to the rampant Hitleresq anti-semitism sweeping through the liberal institutions. The irrationality of it all reminds me of this picture:

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1710886383953522989

Let's ignore the fact that the queers are supporting a group that throws gays off buildings. Does anyone here know what the punishment is for being gay and a Muslim?

Yes. it is so ridiculous to think Trump sits at home by the fire reading Mein Kampf or whatever it is.

Frankly, I have an even simpler explanation: He sometimes blindly repeats things he's read or heard, without being very conscious of how they will be analyzed nor where they came from. I am 99.9% sure that he parrotted after hearing or reading someone, somewhere, saying something about poisoning our blood. Maybe he popped over to vdare (I do myself from time to time) and read it in an article, then incorporated it into his speech. I bet you could find a lot of things like this (not just one controversial thing), if one actually tried

 

[moke123]

Yes. it is so ridiculous to think Trump sits at home by the fire reading Mein Kampf or whatever it is.

Trump has reportedly acknowledged that he was once gifted a copy of Hitler’s book. According to his ex-wife, Ivana Trump, the former president even kept a collection of Hitler’s speeches in a cabinet at his bedside and would read them from time to time.

“Did your cousin John give you the Hitler speeches?” I asked Trump.

Trump hesitated. “Who told you that?”

“I don’t remember,” I said.

“Actually, it was my friend Marty Davis from Paramount who gave me a copy of Mein Kampf, and he’s a Jew.” (“I did give him a book about Hitler,” Marty Davis said. “But it was My New Order, Hitler’s speeches, not Mein Kampf. I thought he would find it interesting. I am his friend, but I’m not Jewish.”)

Edit:

The publisher even added a trump edition in 2015.

https://www.amazon.com/Order-Collec...63-8cad-5bec236c57c4&pd_rd_i=4871879097&psc=1

 

[Steve R.]

In response to @Isaac. @moke123: Evidently you wrote (quoted?): "Trump has reportedly acknowledged that he was once gifted a copy of Hitler’s book. According to his ex-wife, Ivana Trump, the former president even kept a collection of Hitler’s speeches in a cabinet at his bedside and would read them from time to time."

That is nothing more than an unprofessional smear, a logical fallacy of guilt by association. Going a step further, every person who is well read would have a collection of books by Hitler, Stalin, Lenin, Marx, Mao Zedong, and others. Assuming that you went to college, you should have been exposed to those books. Does that automatically make you a follower of one of those "evil" persons?
Not only that, but if someone has gifted something, how can you possibly jump to a logical conclusion that that person is now a follower of person "X" simply because they received a gift with that person's name on it?
I don't think that gifts contain karma that would turn-you into either a Nazi or a Communist.

 

[moke123]

Stick with the program steve. I was responding to

Yes. it is so ridiculous to think Trump sits at home by the fire reading Mein Kampf or whatever it is.

Just pointing out a couple old articles in the public domain. Presumably he read them in bed.

@moke123: Evidently you wrote: "Trump has reportedly acknowledged that he was once gifted a copy of Hitler’s book. According to his ex-wife, Ivana Trump, the former president even kept a collection of Hitler’s speeches in a cabinet at his bedside and would read them from time to time."

I didn't write anything. I quoted an article. I didn't offer any opinion.

Is every negative thing referencing trump automatically a smear?
If you have an issue with the publishers description of your boy on the back cover take it up with him.

 

[Steve R.]

Stick with the program steve. I was responding to

Just pointing out a couple old articles in the public domain. Presumably he read them in bed.

I didn't write anything. I quoted an article. I didn't offer any opinion.

Is every negative thing referencing trump automatically a smear?
If you have an issue with the publishers description of your boy on the back cover take it up with him.

The mere fact that you tossed in negative articles (even if they are in the public domain) does not absolve you of the fact that you blatantly used them as a smearing tool. Your statement that you wrote nothing does not hold water since since you did the work of quoting those points for their smear effect. Clearly, the purpose of your post was to toss-in anti-Trump animosity. Something that you did not have to do.

 

[moke123]

The mere fact that you tossed in negative articles (even if they are in the public domain) does not absolve you of the fact that you blatantly used them as a smearing tool.

Where does one find a Positive article that states that trump keeps a copy of Hitler's speeches at his bedside and would read them from time to time?

Your statement that you wrote nothing does not hold water since since you did the work of quoting those points for their smear effect.

I quoted those posts to point out that it is not a ridiculous idea that he would read them. If you need to call Ivana a liar be my guest.
Personally I would have thought he doesn't read.

Clearly, the purpose of your post was to toss-in anti-Trump animosity. Something that you did not have to do.

Sorry if it hurt your feelings. If I throw in a crazy rant about democrats and the deep state would it make you feel better?

 

[AccessBlaster]

For the sake of clarity is Trump still Hitler?

 

[Jon]

For the sake of clarity is Trump still Hitler?

Yes, of course.

I've watched documentaries and read articles about Hitler. I am also Hitler. I am white, like Hitler. We are both European. I have about 12% of my DNA is from that region. Hitler. I had a German salami the other day. Hitler.

Biden kept classified documents at home, like Trump. Trump is Hitler. Therefore, Biden is Hitler too. Ivana married Hitler.