A Question about TIme and Criteria (2 Viewers)

[Isaac]

SInce we, in America, have either just come here, or we are the progeny of former immigrants, how long, and under what conditions do you, or your family, have to be here before your blood can be poisened by new immagrants. A term that comes to mind, could be "Landed". Once you have meet the criteria of being Landed, then you are no longer a poisiner, but a poisonee. I cannot figure out the time it takes to become Landed, and thus vulnerable. Criteria is less complicated and finite. Could it be race? Could it be origin? I don't know. When the Irish came here in droves between 1851 and 1920 when did they loose their ability to poison the gentry? Same could be said of the Germans, the Italians, or any other group. I remain in search of an answer.

I think you're overthinking it

 

[AccessBlaster]

TDS echo chamber.

 

[Jon]

Trump mentioned poison, not criminality

Wrong. He mentioned both. You have to be a criminal to come from a prison. Get it?

“illegal immigration is poisoning the blood of our nation. They’re coming from prisons, from mental institutions — from all over the world.”

 

[Jon]

Satire, look it up.

So you get racist satire but not analogy or metaphor.

 

[AccessBlaster]

He doesn't want to debate or have a dialog, he just wants to repeat the following in every new thread


"I just want to know how this.....

blah blah blah Donald Trump blah blah blah Hitler, blah blah blah some random fact blah blah blah"

 

[Jon]

It's trolling. Link everything to Hitler. Trump spoke to Putin, just like Hitler spoke with the Russians! Trump used a phrase, just like Hitler! Therefore, Trump is Hitler. Let's turn a blind eye to the rampant Hitleresq anti-semitism sweeping through the liberal institutions. The irrationality of it all reminds me of this picture:

https://twitter.com/x/status/1710886383953522989

Let's ignore the fact that the queers are supporting a group that throws gays off buildings. Does anyone here know what the punishment is for being gay and a Muslim?

 

[Steve R.]

I just want to know how this poisoning takes place,

Read the books:

The Dying Citizen

The New York Times bestselling author of The Case for Trump explains the decline and fall of the once cherished idea of American citizenship.Human history is...

www.hachettebookgroup.com

The Democrat Party Hates America|Hardcover

INSTANT #1 NEW YORK TIMES BESTSELLER The eight-time #1 New York Times bestselling author, radio host, and Fox News star returns to the page to reveal the radically dangerous Democrat agenda that is upending American life. In American...

www.barnesandnoble.com

Also consider reading Orwell's 1984.

 

[Steve R.]

I agree that there should be meaningful legislation regarding immigration

I bet by "meaningful legislation" you will not include rational concepts such as "remain in Mexico" and immediate deportation (wherever caught in the US.) Please explain what you mean by: "meaningful legislation".

 

[The_Doc_Man]

@jpl458 - the poison is that by entering the USA illegally they therefore bring immediate disrespect to the concept of "rule of law." That disrespect for our law makes them "bad blood" in common parlance. I would think that Mr. Trump's comments DID involve a common metaphoric reference to "bad blood" though he could just as well have said "bad faith" and be equally correct. You don't have to be a lawyer to understand that refusing to obey laws makes one a criminal. And they are disobeying our immigration laws. What part of "disobeying a law" do you not understand?

 

[AccessBlaster]

Wow, it's gonna be time to start a new thread after that zinger.

 

[ColinEssex]

The man married TWO immigrants and so four of his five children are "half-breeds" .

May I ask why it is OK for you to use that term, yet when I used it re Miss Markel, I was called a bigot (by you) then you got Doc to publically give me a verbal warning I would be banned and Doc sent me a PM saying similar? Is it because you are 'super' and I am a lowly foreigner?

So, I'm guessing that as you used the phrase, then it's OK to use it now here.
Col

 

[Isaac]

It's trolling. Link everything to Hitler. Trump spoke to Putin, just like Hitler spoke with the Russians! Trump used a phrase, just like Hitler! Therefore, Trump is Hitler. Let's turn a blind eye to the rampant Hitleresq anti-semitism sweeping through the liberal institutions. The irrationality of it all reminds me of this picture:

https://twitter.com/x/status/1710886383953522989

Let's ignore the fact that the queers are supporting a group that throws gays off buildings. Does anyone here know what the punishment is for being gay and a Muslim?

Yes. it is so ridiculous to think Trump sits at home by the fire reading Mein Kampf or whatever it is.

Frankly, I have an even simpler explanation: He sometimes blindly repeats things he's read or heard, without being very conscious of how they will be analyzed nor where they came from. I am 99.9% sure that he parrotted after hearing or reading someone, somewhere, saying something about poisoning our blood. Maybe he popped over to vdare (I do myself from time to time) and read it in an article, then incorporated it into his speech. I bet you could find a lot of things like this (not just one controversial thing), if one actually tried

 

[moke123]

Yes. it is so ridiculous to think Trump sits at home by the fire reading Mein Kampf or whatever it is.

Trump has reportedly acknowledged that he was once gifted a copy of Hitler’s book. According to his ex-wife, Ivana Trump, the former president even kept a collection of Hitler’s speeches in a cabinet at his bedside and would read them from time to time.

“Did your cousin John give you the Hitler speeches?” I asked Trump.

Trump hesitated. “Who told you that?”

“I don’t remember,” I said.

“Actually, it was my friend Marty Davis from Paramount who gave me a copy of Mein Kampf, and he’s a Jew.” (“I did give him a book about Hitler,” Marty Davis said. “But it was My New Order, Hitler’s speeches, not Mein Kampf. I thought he would find it interesting. I am his friend, but I’m not Jewish.”)

Edit:

The publisher even added a trump edition in 2015.

https://www.amazon.com/Order-Collec...63-8cad-5bec236c57c4&pd_rd_i=4871879097&psc=1

 

[Steve R.]

In response to @Isaac. @moke123: Evidently you wrote (quoted?): "Trump has reportedly acknowledged that he was once gifted a copy of Hitler’s book. According to his ex-wife, Ivana Trump, the former president even kept a collection of Hitler’s speeches in a cabinet at his bedside and would read them from time to time."

That is nothing more than an unprofessional smear, a logical fallacy of guilt by association. Going a step further, every person who is well read would have a collection of books by Hitler, Stalin, Lenin, Marx, Mao Zedong, and others. Assuming that you went to college, you should have been exposed to those books. Does that automatically make you a follower of one of those "evil" persons?
Not only that, but if someone has gifted something, how can you possibly jump to a logical conclusion that that person is now a follower of person "X" simply because they received a gift with that person's name on it?
I don't think that gifts contain karma that would turn-you into either a Nazi or a Communist.

 

[moke123]

Stick with the program steve. I was responding to

Yes. it is so ridiculous to think Trump sits at home by the fire reading Mein Kampf or whatever it is.

Just pointing out a couple old articles in the public domain. Presumably he read them in bed.

@moke123: Evidently you wrote: "Trump has reportedly acknowledged that he was once gifted a copy of Hitler’s book. According to his ex-wife, Ivana Trump, the former president even kept a collection of Hitler’s speeches in a cabinet at his bedside and would read them from time to time."

I didn't write anything. I quoted an article. I didn't offer any opinion.

Is every negative thing referencing trump automatically a smear?
If you have an issue with the publishers description of your boy on the back cover take it up with him.

 

[Steve R.]

Stick with the program steve. I was responding to

Just pointing out a couple old articles in the public domain. Presumably he read them in bed.

I didn't write anything. I quoted an article. I didn't offer any opinion.

Is every negative thing referencing trump automatically a smear?
If you have an issue with the publishers description of your boy on the back cover take it up with him.

The mere fact that you tossed in negative articles (even if they are in the public domain) does not absolve you of the fact that you blatantly used them as a smearing tool. Your statement that you wrote nothing does not hold water since since you did the work of quoting those points for their smear effect. Clearly, the purpose of your post was to toss-in anti-Trump animosity. Something that you did not have to do.

 

[moke123]

The mere fact that you tossed in negative articles (even if they are in the public domain) does not absolve you of the fact that you blatantly used them as a smearing tool.

Where does one find a Positive article that states that trump keeps a copy of Hitler's speeches at his bedside and would read them from time to time?

Your statement that you wrote nothing does not hold water since since you did the work of quoting those points for their smear effect.

I quoted those posts to point out that it is not a ridiculous idea that he would read them. If you need to call Ivana a liar be my guest.
Personally I would have thought he doesn't read.

Clearly, the purpose of your post was to toss-in anti-Trump animosity. Something that you did not have to do.

Sorry if it hurt your feelings. If I throw in a crazy rant about democrats and the deep state would it make you feel better?

 

[AccessBlaster]

For the sake of clarity is Trump still Hitler?

 

[Jon]

For the sake of clarity is Trump still Hitler?

Yes, of course.

I've watched documentaries and read articles about Hitler. I am also Hitler. I am white, like Hitler. We are both European. I have about 12% of my DNA is from that region. Hitler. I had a German salami the other day. Hitler.

Biden kept classified documents at home, like Trump. Trump is Hitler. Therefore, Biden is Hitler too. Ivana married Hitler.

 

[Jon]

I bet by "meaningful legislation" you will not include rational concepts such as "remain in Mexico" and immediate deportation (wherever caught in the US.) Please explain what you mean by: "meaningful legislation".

By "meaningful legislation", he means "porous".