Baby Euthanasia

[ColinEssex]

He did answer your question, ask the moderator why it was deleted

I missed out on this - did Ken delete your post because you dared to have a poke at religion?

Whats the story Ken?

Col

 

[nikkypickles]

Why would you think that, simply because I don't attend church?

I'm not sure god would really want someone who complains, bemoans and curses everything about Him/Her to reside anywhere in the immediate vicinity, or be rewarded for bad-mouthing or critisising the obedient.

It's rather like rewarding the brat in school who refuses to do their homework, or attend lessons. Should there be a test at the end of term, you wouldn't expect them to pass, would you?

FYI - I am NOT religious. I couldn't give a monkee's whether or not god exists. I am in favour of Easter and Christmas if only because they are holidays - we get fewer holidays than the rest of Europe (and the US? Can anyone correct me on this, please?) and I will jump on any bandwagon that will get me out of work for another day. I like cathedrals - they are beautiful pieces of architecture. Religions work in theory (but then so does communism) and the biggest failing is the human element.

And now look what you've made me do... /off topic

Mind you, I'm pretty mad at myself for once again getting drawn in to another soul-destroying discussion

 

[Rich]

I'm not sure god would really want someone who complains, bemoans and curses everything about Him/Her to reside anywhere in the immediate vicinity, or be rewarded for bad-mouthing or critisising the obedient.

I don't recall cursing here, can you point it out to me?

 

[Rich]

I missed out on this - did Ken delete your post because you dared to have a poke at religion?



Col

Somebody did, though I don't remember which thread it was on because Jenny argues on just about every one

 

[nikkypickles]

I don't recall cursing here, can you point it out to me?

Depending on your definition of cursing - or cussing - your use of a four letter word which mr moderator censored would seem to fit the bill.

 

[Rich]

Depending on your definition of cursing - or cussing - your use of a four letter word which mr moderator censored would seem to fit the bill.

Like I said at the time, others use that word frequently here, in any case it wasn't aimed at god and I don't think it's listed in the bible as a reserved word either

 

[ColinEssex]

I am in favour of Easter and Christmas if only because they are holidays -

December 25th has nothing to do with religion. If there was a Jesus, he was born in Sept / Oct time.

a case can apparently be made that Jesus Christ was born on the 15th day of the month of Tishri, on the first day of the Feast of Tabernacles, which corresponds to the September - October timeframe of our present calendar

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It was in a.d. 314 the Roman Emperor Constantine the Great changed the date of Jesus's birthday to December 25. Sad to say this date is still believed by many to be his birthdate.

Constantine had two reasons for making the change. Firstly it separated the Christian celebration from any Jewish association. In doing so Constantine was trying to suggest Jesus was a Christian, not a Jew.

The second reason was so that the new birthdate of Jesus would coincide with and then eventually replace the Pagan Sun Festival. The reality is that December 25 is the Pagan Sun Festival.

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Thats why we decorate trees on the 25th - its a Pagan festival.

But you're right Nikky, its a day off work and thats the main thing
Col

 

[Pauldohert]

but its hardly ruling our lives is it?

Rich U don't seem to have been able to answer this one either?

 

[ShaneMan]

December 25th has nothing to do with religion. If there was a Jesus, he was born in Sept / Oct time.
Col

Hey Col, don't if you would find this interesting or not but hopefully you will. Jewish high priest have kept information for many centuries and one of the pieces of information that they have kept is the birth of Jesus and according to them. Jesus was born on Sept. 11th.

 

[ColinEssex]

Paul - any clues as to why you can have the word "shit" in every post of yours, yet the word was obscured by **** in Rich's post

Personally, I don't mind, its a common everyday word. I was just curious

Col

 

[Pauldohert]

I didn't see the context of Rich's use of it, so at the moment I wouldn't like to comment.

Mine is purely a quote of the idiot in charge - (i forget which of the two it is now)

 

[Pauldohert]

I was also under the impression that most of Rich's posts are full of shit - and they are all still here?

 

[jsanders]

I was also under the impression that most of Rich's posts are full of shit - and they are all still here?

So is this the mutual animosity society?

 

[ColinEssex]

Hey Col, don't if you would find this interesting or not but hopefully you will. Jewish high priest have kept information for many centuries and one of the pieces of information that they have kept is the birth of Jesus and according to them. Jesus was born on Sept. 11th.

Thanks Shane

Col

 

[ShaneMan]

Thanks Shane

Col

Your welcome.

 

[ColinEssex]

Your welcome.

I appreciate your time in helping on this

Col

 

[Pauldohert]

So is this the mutual animosity society?

It would be presumtious for me to answer that.

 

[MrsGorilla]

I don't recall cursing here, can you point it out to me?

You don't neccesarily have to use 4-letter words to curse something.

 

[msp]

Whilst I may agree with the do-not resuss (in certain cases). I could never agree with actively killing a baby once it was born although I do not object to abortions. Once baby is alive and able to survive outside the mother (even with a little help) it is human.

What I do think that there should be is a limit on what age a new born is supported. i.e at 24 weeks. It is now possible to put the baby in a incubator and there is a chance that the baby will survive, but with a very high probability that it will be handicapped. At some point we have to draw the line a survival.

One of my major concerns, is the same as my concern with "the right of terminal ill patients to die.” Is that it is the thin edge, and it will lead to “well you are a burden so you should die”, So you get babies with downs syndrome (who can lead a happy and productive life) put to death because the parents decide at an emotional time (or are under pressure too) to have the “put too sleep”.

 

[Rich]

You don't neccesarily have to use 4-letter words to curse something.

I can't think of any three letter ones