Coronavirus - are we all doomed?

[Jon]

I hope I am wrong about all this. I will be self-isolating with my elderly father for 4 months. Not sure how I can cope by not going out for so long, it will drive me nuts! So, I'm gonna need to draw up all sorts of behavioural change plans so I change my lifestyle dramatically. No sport to watch on telly either!

Maybe lots of gardening, walks, reading books! I've cancelled my gym membership so will have to do some routines at home. I have a barbell, bullworker, bands. Will use those in my office.

Does anyone here have any plans while self-isolating, or are you not self-isolating?

 

[Jon]

Bill Gates, four years ahead of everybody else.

 

[vba_php]

I hope I am wrong about all this. I will be self-isolating with my elderly father for 4 months.

is he sick Jon?

 

[vba_php]

Bill Gates, four years ahead of everybody else.

he's got serious knowledge issues. he may end up in a mental institute. =)

 

[Jon]

No. But the government over here in the UK will soon be suggesting the over-70's go into lock-down for up to 4 months. There are not enough ventilators in the UK and the risk to the elderly is considerable. In my fathers age range, there is a 15% death rate.

 

[vba_php]

yikes! 70% of old people? is that what ur referring to?

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sorry, wrong words. 70 somethings. ok yeah, I get it.

 

[Jon]

The doctor who first reported the corona, he died and he was only mid-thirties.

 

[vba_php]

did he die from the virus?

 

[Jon]

I came up with an analogy yesterday. Imagine you are elderly. There is a mad axe-man in your local town, with a population of 20,000. If half of the population get infected with the corona, that is 100 dead. So, you can pop into town to get your milk for your coffee if you want. But there is a mad axe-man in town, who will wipe out 100 people over the next 4 months! He tends to go for the elderly, but anybody is at risk. It amounts to the same thing!

"I'll take mine black thanks!"

 

[Jon]

Yes. And his doctor colleague, although I don't know their age.

Some young medical workers info: https://www.businessinsider.com/why-coronavirus-killed-young-chinese-doctors-2020-2?r=US&IR=T

 

[NauticalGent]

@CJ_London ,

The facts and stats you mention is what I did not account for until recently while I was home. I happened to be watching a lesser known news channel that broke it down much like you did.

The important information is not getting to the masses - for whatever reason - so most Americans are not giving this issue its proper sense of urgency. I dont know if somehow our hygiene and "superior" standard of living is sufficient enough to stave off the virus. I hope the price of our overconfidence and arrogance isn't too steep.

 

[NauticalGent]

bullworker

Showing your age there, Jon!

 

[Jon]

A friend gave it to me when I was 17. It is still in perfect condition. They don't half last! Take up little space and you can do a fairly quick routine with them.

Regarding your other comments, people only react when it hits them in the here and now. When I talk about projections, people just look at me with a blank face. They don't emotionally feel the reality until it is actually happening.

Regarding hygiene, I saw a simulation that showed the difference between washing your hands and not washing them. It essentially slows the spread. In the simulation, when split testing not-washing vs washing hands, the not-washing population had 40 million infected, while the washing group had 30 million infected. So, while it helps, it only partially helps. Don't kid yourself into thinking that you are safe due to good hygiene habits.

Instead, this is the unspoken truth:

=> Most transmission is airborne.

Just breathing infected peoples air can lead to your own infection.

I feel like the governments like to brush over details like this. "Wash your hands!" they all cry. But how about giving people the facts that most transmission is airborne?

 

[The_Doc_Man]

We are getting that "airborne" information. Just a couple of nights ago, the police drove down Bourbon Street using their car loudspeakers to ask people to not gather in large groups in public due to the corona pandemic. We are seeing shows that tell us to stay at least six feet away from others if you must go out.

 

[vba_php]

if it is airborne, Jon, it reminds me of M. Night Schamalyan's movie called "The Happening". ever see that?

 

[Jon]

Doc, they are saying the same over here about social distancing. But I have not heard one single government official say that most transmission is by air. It deludes people into thinking that washing your hands is the main solution, in my view.

Also, I am not happy with the information coming out of our government. A few days ago, our prime minister said we are one month behind Italy. At that time, I noted down the current stats on that day. My own calculations showed that we were 2 weeks behind Italy, not one month. My instant reaction was that the government is playing it down, rather than giving us the objective facts. Anyways, yesterday, another government minister was talking and saying we are one to two weeks behind Italy. I'm sorry, but on such an important issue, why are we not getting a consistent story from the government? It is misinformation and leads to people thinking we have more time than we actually have before we batten down the hatches.

I haven't seen that movie Adam. I do watch a lot of movies, and it is likely I will be watching a whole bunch more in the coming months!

 

[kevlray]

Our local schools are shut down. A lot of public events have been canceled. A couple of notes. I recently heard that 25% of Italy's population is 65 or older. They got hit pretty quickly before we know as much as we know now. I heard on a news talk show that Israel has been working on a vaccine for a strain of the corinavirus that affected chickens. They now are focused on a vaccine for humans.

 

[NauticalGent]

Here you go, Jon...and anyone else you might be interested. The BUDS/SEALS workout routine. The run and swim portion might be difficult, but the rest should have you feeling manly in no time!

 

[Jon]

There are a couple of drugs being tested in Australia to help those with covid-19. They are an HIV antiviral and one for malaria. Apparently, they wiped out the bugs in those that they tried it on. So, since they are already approved for safety, it would be great if they can roll out their use. They are doing a clinical trial shortly.

 

[Jon]

Here you go, Jon...and anyone else you might be interested. The BUDS/SEALS workout routine. The run and swim portion might be difficult, but the rest should have you feeling manly in no time!

Nice routine and I like the way they ramp things up. I am a bit old to become a navy seal though!