Did I make this up?

[Kraj]

Has anyone ever heard this before or did I make it up? I can't be sure, but I was quite pleased with myself and thought it was clever:

"Old farts are long-winded"

 

[NJudson]

Has anyone ever heard this before or did I make it up? I can't be sure, but I was quite pleased with myself and thought it was clever:

"Old farts are long-winded"

Congratulations. People will be saying this for the next hundred years.

 

[Rich]

Congratulations. People will be saying this for the next hundred years.

Gosh I wouldn't have seen this post if you hadn't replied to it and as such I now have to ask why Americans have such a fascination with vulgar bodily functions

 

[BarryMK]

Rich I think sometimes you're just too quick to Pooh pooh American foibles.

 

[Rich]

Rich I think sometimes you're just too quick to Pooh pooh American foibles.

Ah but then being a fairminded Brit I decided to give them the benefit of the doubt and look the word up in the dictionary.

FART (fart) Vulgar, slang

 

[ColinEssex]

Ah but then being a fairminded Brit I decided to give them the benefit of the doubt and look the word up in the dictionary.

FART (fart) Vulgar, slang

Look Rich, you should know that its ok for the Yanks to use unfavourable terms / words, but as they police the whole world (except China and North Korea), they have to criticise others for doing the same.

I wonder if the word "Redskin" is still used in the USA?

Col

 

[Len Boorman]

It would appear that Iran is classified by a certain area as being a threat to world peace and are involving the UN.

Hmmmmm wonder if this forum will be investigated by the UN as well.




L

 

[Rich]

I wonder if the word "Redskin" is still used in the USA?

Col

Well yes oddly they even have football teams, web sites, company names all called Redskins, kinda odd really when the term is quite clearly used as a disparaging term for a Native American.

Do the terms duplicity and double standards spring to your mind too?

 

[ColinEssex]

Well yes oddly they even have football teams, web sites, company names all called Redskins, . . . . . . .
Do the terms duplicity and double standards spring to your mind too?

Ahhh yes, the Washington Redskins

Lets see. . . Websters dictionary says

Redskin
Noun
1. Offensive terms for Native Americans.

Double standards indeed I think.

Col

 

[KenHigg]

Ahhh yes, the Washington Redskins

Lets see. . . Websters dictionary says



Double standards indeed I think.

Col

Never heard of them, are they a baseball team in Washington DC or Washington state?... Anyway I agree they should be reprimanded!

(Maybe they should move 'em to Alabama and call the the Rednecks )

 

[ColinEssex]

Never heard of them, are they a baseball team in Washington DC or Washington state?...

Here's their site they seem quite a big team.

Its amazing they've managed to get away with having an offensive name for so long.

Imagine if we had "Manchester Chinkies" - I suspect there would be an uproar, but as is usual in the USA, a blind eye is turned.

Col

 

[KenHigg]

...Imagine if we had "Manchester Chinkies" - I suspect there would be an uproar, but as is usual in the USA, a blind eye is turned.

Col

Oh Col, No need to be upset because Kraj used the phrase 'old fart'. If you found it offensive because of your age then I'm sure he will apologize

 

[ColinEssex]

(Maybe they should move 'em to Alabama and call the the Rednecks )

Oxford dictionary says redneck is a derogatory US term for a southerner.

Websters says -

A stereotypical redneck has a beer belly, lives in a trailer, drives a pickup truck, enjoys hunting, and votes Republican

It appears "redneck" may (or may not) be offensive, it seems borderline to me.

Oh Col, No need to be upset because Kraj used the phrase 'old fart'. If you found it offensive

where did I say I was upset at Kraj's remark?. . . . . . .

Col

 

[KenHigg]

Seems to me the two elements to consider when contemplating the use of a word like redneck or chink are:

a: Are you meaning to use it as a derogatory word and
b: Is it remotely possible that the people within earshot of the conversation consider the term derogatory.

So, my opinion is that if both answers are no, then use it if you want, if either is yes, maybe the high ground is to reconsider....

 

[ColinEssex]

If ther word "redskin" is classed as offensive by Websters, how come its in common use in the USA?

(is this same discussion now on 2 different threads?)

Col

 

[dan-cat]

Look Rich, you should know that its ok for the Yanks to use unfavourable terms / words, but as they police the whole world (except China and North Korea), they have to criticise others for doing the same.

I wonder if the word "Redskin" is still used in the USA?

Col

It is so funny that you can't forge an argument without attacking an entire culture. Without indulging in your puerile stereo-typing. It really is quite pathetic. There are plenty of Americans who wouldn't find Chink offensive and there are plenty of Americans who are not in the least bit interested in policing your use of the English language. Lumping a whole group of people into one category just illustrates your lack of understanding on the matter.

You like to put labels on people because it makes you feel superior. Anyone who disagrees gets put in a box and stamped with a derogatory label. It really is quite sad.

 

[Rich]

It is so funny that you can't forge an argument without attacking an entire culture. Without indulging in your puerile stereo-typing. It really is quite pathetic. There are plenty of Americans who wouldn't find Chink offensive and there are plenty of Americans who are not in the least bit interested in policing your use of the English language. Lumping a whole group of people into one category just illustrates your lack of understanding on the matter.

You like to put labels on people because it makes you feel superior. Anyone who disagrees gets put in a box and stamped with a derogatory label. It really is quite sad.

Why does the word hypocrisy immediately spring to mind?

 

[KenHigg]

If ther word "redskin" is classed as offensive by Websters, how come its in common use in the USA?

(is this same discussion now on 2 different threads?)

Col

I'm not sure I'd say it's really considered a common use word. I've heard it used as a sport team name but rarely do I hear it used in every day conversations...

 

[ColinEssex]

It is so funny that you can't forge an argument without attacking an entire culture.

It does appear that the entire culture you refer to is quite happy to use the offensive word "redskin" - so much so, they name a football team after it, just to make sure it appears on national TV I suppose. who cares it offends people - its the land of the free, we can upset anyone we like.

Stereo typing a culture is quite normal for all nations (as you well know)

People say the Brits drink tea and eat cucumber sandwiches at 4pm every day, or all English men wear bowler hats and carry an umbrella.
Or all Spanish people sleep between 2pm and 4pm as a siesta.
Or Greek women never shave underarm.
All Koreans eat dogs.

Its quite normal - now you'll disagree just to be awkward

Col

 

[mitchem1]

Has anyone ever heard this before or did I make it up? I can't be sure, but I was quite pleased with myself and thought it was clever:

"Old farts are long-winded"

I agree Kraj, Rich and Colin are long-winded.