Elon Musk - Tesla - FSD

[Steve R.]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1902918140700529113

 

[Cotswold]

I still cannot see the point in FSD and why such huge sums are being spent on it.

 

[CJ_London]

I can see taxi companies, perhaps bus companies seeing a benefit since they can save the cost of the driver. I can see the benefit of being driven to the station/airport and returning home - saves on parking fees. Also drop us off at the pub and pick us up after a skinful (tho’ not so beneficial for the taxi/bus companies)

Love to know how picking up/delivering stuff would work. And would you really want your expensive bundle of joy being used to ferry who knows who to who knows where?

But let’s say that all works and one vehicle now does the work of say 10 vehicles to utilise the unused time. What is that going to do to the motor industry when demand drops by 90%? Let alone all those unemployed drivers.

 

[Mike Krailo]

A more scary thought is FSFD, Fully Self Flying Drones.

 

[moke123]

A more scary thought is FSFD, Fully Self Flying Drones.

Already here. I can punch coordinates into my drone and it will follow them all while avoiding any obstacles in the way. Again the Chinese are way ahead of us.

 

[moke123]

Think what will happen if they make underwater drones! Drones that can explore the vast unexplored areas of the sea floor. Finding historic shipwrecks, finding vast mineral deposits .

Could make a massive leap in biology as they find new species of fish and plants!

take your pick.

Google Search

 

[Mike Krailo]

Already here. I can punch coordinates into my drone and it will follow them all while avoiding any obstacles in the way. Again the Chinese are way ahead of us.

I guess what I meant was drones that go where ever they want (AI) to go to make sure everyone follows the laws. Constant surveillance on another level.

 

[moke123]

Imagine it dropping you off at work

By then jobs will be far and few between.

 

[moke123]

Constant surveillance on another level.

better keep your shades drawn.

We already have constant surveillance. We had a bank robbery a few years ago. LE was able to track the robber for miles by collecting surveillance video from stores, ring doorbells, traffic cameras, etc. all the way to the hotel he was staying at.

 

[Mike Krailo]

We already have constant surveillance. We had a bank robbery a few years ago. LE was able to track the robber for miles by collecting surveillance video from stores, ring doorbells, traffic cameras, etc. all the way to the hotel he was staying at.

And yet we still don't know the guy who planted the bomb in front of the DNC on Jan 6th.

 

[AccessBlaster]

And yet we still don't know the guy who planted the bomb in front of the DNC on Jan 6th.

Because it was a Democrat operative trying to ensnare Trump in some J6 conspiracy.

 

[AccessBlaster]

BTW, they do know.

 

[moke123]

BTW, they do know.

I agree. But they likely don't have enough for a solid conviction.

 

[AccessBlaster]

The big hint was the device was a training device used by a certain agency. Never meant to explode, more likely to frame.

 

[moke123]

Looks like you should be able to pick up a used tesla on the cheap.

Tesla Trade-Ins Are At An All-Time High, Edmunds Says

JPMorgan analysts said this week they struggled to think of another time “a [car] brand has lost so much value so quickly."

ca.finance.yahoo.com

even tesla execs are dumping their tesla stocks

 

[Mike Krailo]

I didn't mean to derail the thread. Whoops.

 

[Mike Krailo]

Looks like you should be able to pick up a used tesla on the cheap.

Tesla Trade-Ins Are At An All-Time High, Edmunds Says

JPMorgan analysts said this week they struggled to think of another time “a [car] brand has lost so much value so quickly."

ca.finance.yahoo.com

even tesla execs are dumping their tesla stocks

I guess they never cared about the environment after all.

 

[moke123]

costing the idiots real money

I've had more cars than I can count but I can't understand why someone would spend that kind of money for a car to begin with. And take out a car loan on top of that. I care about the environment but I also don't think EV's are ready for primetime, at least for my purposes. I just bought my first used car, on a whim, a few months ago and it only gets 17-18 mpg. I must be a bad liberal.

 

[Cotswold]

I asked grok to turn my observations into a post here below:-

Cotswold, I get why you’d question the point of FSD and all the money being poured into it—it’s a fair thing to wonder about, especially if you’re not sold on the Musk/Tesla hype. But here’s one way to look at why Musk says a car’s value could shoot up once FSD is fully ready, even for folks who’d rather roll their eyes at him.

So the object is to increase the value cost of a car by a considerable amount.

Maybe making them unaffordable to buy meaning that they would be rented. As many phones are. The rented phones are charged to include 20% interest on capital employed and more. Which is why I'll only buy a £100 Android and never rent an Apple. But if it was an Apple, or nothing, I'd do without.

Presumably you'll telephone for a car to be dispatched to pick you up and take you to your destination. Thereby increasing considerably the number of journeys made by vehicles. No doubt suffering huge delays waiting for a lift, in the same way that EVs do at present in charging.

"Apologies Fred you cannot have a car until tomorrow to take you back home. In the meantime you can stay in the Musk Hotel at £350 for the night." Or maybe it is a busy period , or you are going to and from an event like the Cheltenham Gold Cup so the price is double, or treble. (Premier Inn in Cheltenham £90, in Gold Cup Week £430.) Or your car arrives and some kid has been sick in it. Etc, etc.

Then of course Musk will no doubt sell details of your movements etc, etc. Goodbye freedom, welcome control.
I still don't see it working. Well not for me anyway. Mind you I can be a bit glass-half-empty on stuff like this.

 

[moke123]

Then of course Musk will no doubt sell details of your movements etc, etc.

worse than that . . .