Falklands? Argentina reasserts Falklands claim

ColinEssex said:
oh yeah, like its bloody hard for the Argies to hide on an island the size of a football pitch. We may not have seen them:rolleyes:

If you'd read up on your own country's history you'd know the fighting zone was a lot bigger than that :rolleyes:
 
Rich said:
I already answered the question previously:confused:

Good for you. Try to stop babbling on about the Middle East when we're talking about the Falklands, there's a good chap :D
 
dan-cat said:
Good for you. Try to stop babbling on about the Middle East when we're talking about the Falklands, there's a good chap :D
Try reading the answers then, who knows, you might learn from them:p
 
dan-cat said:
If you'd read up on your own country's history you'd know the fighting zone was a lot bigger than that :rolleyes:
I knew that - but thanks for pointing it out, I will refrain from humour as its obviously lost on you. Although, most of the fighting was around the Port Stanley area (as you well know) and that area is fairly compact (as you well know)

Col
 
KalelGmoon said:
Col gotta ask you this.

In the history classes in the UK, do they teach you about the rest of the worlds history? like the US and Russia and Germany?

I have no idea what they teach currently, but I was taught about many major country's conflicts as well as our own. We covered the Spanish / Portugese / French colonisations, various civil wars and the like. We learnt that the USA has been the only country to drop a nuclear device on civilians killing thousands at a stroke.

I read a book on the US civil war (I wanted the Confederates to win) and other country's history over the years, particularly European and the Spanish history which is quite fascinating.

Its more difficult these days I guess because the USA starts so many wars, then pulls out when it gets tough. Geography and History teachers must find it difficult to keep up.

If you want to talk history though, then SJ is your man, he has links to his history site.

Col
 
ColinEssex said:
I knew that - but thanks for pointing it out, I will refrain from humour as its obviously lost on you. Although, most of the fighting was around the Port Stanley area (as you well know) and that area is fairly compact (as you well know)

Col

Try using a :p instead of a :rolleyes: to aid clarification ;)
 
ColinEssex said:
and the French sold the Argies the Super Étendard jet fighter.

Col


and sold them exocet missiles which trashed a couple of our ships.

there was a really good documentary about it a while back. the argies bodged together some land based launch system for the missiles as they did not have the time/ability to hook them all up correctly to planes/ships.

if i recall right we did get a bit lucky....one exocet narrowly missed the troop ship and sunk a helicopter transport ship instead. we won after losing half a dozen 'copters.....don't think we would have won if we had lost a few hundred troops to the sea.

i believe that the waters around the falklands is very rich in fish as well as oil. that may be the attraction of the islands.
 
Rich said:
Try reading the answers then, who knows, you might learn from them:p

I'm trying to learn about the Falklands at the moment. Please don't stretch my limited American mental capacity :p
 
dan-cat said:
I'm trying to learn about the Falklands at the moment. Please don't stretch my limited American mental capacity :p
And limited is one statement that I can't argue with:cool: :p
 
Rich said:
And limited is one statement that I can't argue with:cool: :p

Col seems to think I'm doing well...:)

ColinEssex said:
Although, most of the fighting was around the Port Stanley area (as you well know) and that area is fairly compact (as you well know)

Col
 
dan-cat said:
Try using a :p instead of a :rolleyes: to aid clarification ;)
ah, so I should use a smilie poking its tongue out to indicate that it was a joke about the football pitch size, otherwise you think its true.

DanCat said:
Col seems to think I'm doing well...
That was also meant to be a joke. I doubt if you have any idea where the Falklands or even South America is.

Col
 
Hmmm

Two thoughts

1) Send for Maggie cos this PM got no spherical objects

2) Wonder if Bush will help us.

Worried about (2). The Falklands are not very big ... would the US miss it completely. By Miss It I mean with ships, Aircraft and various other exploding thingies
L
 
Rich said:
Well it's a start, but we've a long way to go yet:eek:

Yes, perhaps you'll spend the time to go through the British use of concentration camps during the Boer war. I'm little a lacking in that area. :p
 
1825 Britain and the Government of Buenos Aires sign a Treaty of Amity, Trade and Navigation which makes no reference to the Islands
1829 The United Provinces of Rio de la Plata appoint Vernet Governor of East Falkland;
Britain formally protests Vernet's appointment and reiterates its sovereignty claim
1833 British warships force departure of Don Pinedo and warship Sarandi, then depart leaving William Dickson in charge until Matthew Brisbane's return;
1834 British warships HMS Challenger and HMS Hopeful arrive at Port Louis;
Lt Henry Smith supported by a boat crew is left in charge as British military administrator;
Antonio Rivero and his gaucho gang are arrested and taken to England for trial;
Colony at Port Louis re-established and re-named Anson's Harbour;
now does this sound familiar
1884 Argentina asks that the sovereignty dispute be submitted to international arbitration but Britain ignores the request;
1960 UN Resolution 1514 calls for an end to colonialism;
Britain lists the Islands as a colony and Argentina objects
1961 Antarctic Treaty comes into effect freezing sovereignty over Antarctica for 30 years;
Establishment of local political party National Progressive Party;
UN establishes Decolonisation Committee by Resolution 1654
1973 Newly-elected Argentine Peronist government renews sovereignty claim in the UN which passes Resolution 3160 urging sovereignty negotiations;
Britain refuses to discuss sovereignty;
1981 British Nationality Act removes British nationality from any Falkland Islander who does not have a parent or grandparent born in Britain;
Argentina protests to UN over lack of progress on sovereignty dispute;
I like that "Liberated", almost sounds like Iraq
1982 2 April to 14 June 1982 Islands occupied by Argentine army until liberated by British Task Force - 257 Britons including 3 Islanders killed in the Conflict
1984 Talks between Argentina and Britain in Berne fail because Britain refuses to discuss sovereignty
1994 Amendment to Argentine Constitution ratifies Argentina's 'legitimate and imprescriptible sovereignty' over the Islands and makes their recovery 'a permanent and unrenounceable object of the Argentine people';
 
ColinEssex said:
That was also meant to be a joke. I doubt if you have any idea where the Falklands or even South America is.

I've got to admit I don't find your jokes very funny, no offense.
 
dan-cat said:
Yes, perhaps you'll spend the time to go through the British use of concentration camps during the Boer war. I'm little a lacking in that area. :p
The Boer war was prior to the current Geneva convention - a little convention the USA has forgoten about on Guantanamo. Maybe the Geneva convention doesn't apply to the USA?

Col
 
So the world started in 1825, I'm only surprised that it is not 1793

Brian
 
ColinEssex said:
The Boer war was prior to the current Geneva convention

So I'm not allowed to be taught about it :confused:
 
Brianwarnock said:
So the world started in 1825, I'm only surprised that it is not 1793

Brian

...and I thought our history was limited :D
 

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