Famous Quotes

[Uncle Gizmo]

Novelist Michael R Fletcher:

“Today’s truths will be tomorrow’s lies and you will be left questioning your own sanity.”

I thought this weighed up the current situation very well!!!

It also works if you transpose the "truths" and "lies" words, particularly in the current Wokish climate...

 

[Isaac]

Novelist Michael R Fletcher:

“Today’s truths will be tomorrow’s lies and you will be left questioning your own sanity.”

I thought this weighed up the current situation very well!!!

It also works if you transpose the "truths" and "lies" words, particularly in the current Wokish climate...

Your last sentence is exactly what I was thinking of replying until I read it
That's EXACTLY what we're going through with the whole woke crap.
Today's lies are becoming tomorrow's truths if we don't speak up for what's true today

 

[The_Doc_Man]

Novelist, journalist, and America humorist Mark Twain (Samuel Clemens), regarding truth:

"The reason we hold truth in such respect is because we have so little opportunity to get familiar with it."

"Truth is stranger than fiction, but it is because Fiction is obliged to stick to possibilities. Truth isn't."

"Often the surest way to convey misinformation is to tell the strict truth."

"If you tell the truth, you don't have to remember anything."

"Advertisements contain the only truths to be relied on in a newspaper."

"There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies, and statistics."

and ... this little gem from over 100 years ago that applies today to President Putin:

"The statesmen will invent cheap lies, putting the blame upon the nation that is attacked, and every man will be glad of those conscience-soothing falsities, and will diligently study them, and refuse to examine any refutations of them; and thus he will by and by convince himself that the war is just, and will thank God for the better sleep he enjoys after this process of grotesque self-deception."

 

[Uncle Gizmo]

Today's lies are becoming tomorrow's truths if we don't speak up for what's true today

Exactly!!!

The road to hell is paved with good intentions...

Luckily we have people like Musk who don't fuss about with intentions, they just get on and do the right thing. Bugger the cost to themselves....

 

[Uncle Gizmo]

I don't think I said "fuss" ... I think I said something else and the speech to text app decided to sanitise it!

 

[Isaac]

Often the surest way to convey misinformation is to tell the strict truth

Hmm, that's an interesting opinion. Did Mark Twain really say that?

That sounds identical to the way liberals talk these days. "Well yes, strictly speaking that IS actually true, but, it's still somehow Misinformation. Here's why:" .... and then they proceed to some mumbo jumbo using new words they've invented to try to convince you not to believe your eyes.

 

[The_Doc_Man]

Hmm, that's an interesting opinion. Did Mark Twain really say that?

That sounds identical to the way liberals talk these days. "Well yes, strictly speaking that IS actually true, but, it's still somehow Misinformation. Here's why:" .... and then they proceed to some mumbo jumbo using new words they've invented to try to convince you not to believe your eyes.

Yes, it is one of his more cynical quotes. But it is also quite true. It works best when someone is looking so hard for another answer that they disbelieve the raw truth when presented with minimum embellishment. There is a variant of it - to tell someone the truth - but don't claim it to be, and don't speak, the COMPLETE truth. I.e. tell most of the truth. Leave stuff out but never lie in what you DO say. Then later you could say, "Oh, did I not explain that part? Must have slipped my mind."

 

[Isaac]

Hmm. The original quote just sounds too much like someone from the Biden administration would say for my taste.

Okay, it may be true that a quarter million migrants are crossing illegally, but remove it from twitter as misinformation
Okay, it may be true that your 8 year old has a better chance of winning the lottery than dying from covid, but remove it from twitter as misinformation

..and so on and so on, in the numbering 100's of instances.

Of course the truth in context is best, but still, I'll take the raw truth out of context any day over the outright lies that have come to dominate our society's conversation.

 

[Uncle Gizmo]

Luckily we have people like Musk

Here's another:-

- YouTube

Enjoy the videos and music you love, upload original content, and share it all with friends, family, and the world on YouTube.

youtube.com

 

[Steve R.]

Orwell quotes:

• But if thought corrupts language, language can also corrupt thought.
• Political language... is designed to make lies sound truthful and murder respectable, and to give an appearance of solidity to pure wind.
• There is no swifter route to the corruption of thought than through the corruption of language
• In our time, political speech and writing are largely the defense of the indefensible... Thus, political language has to consist largely of euphemism, question-begging, and sheer cloudy vagueness... Political language [is] designed to make lies sound truthful and murder respectable.

Goebbles quote;

• If you repeat a lie often enough, people will believe it, and you will even come to believe it yourself.
• "There was no point in seeking to convert the intellectuals. For intellectuals would never be converted and would anyway always yield to the stronger, and this will always be "the man in the street." Arguments must therefore be crude, clear and forcible, and appeal to emotions and instincts, not the intellect. Truth was unimportant and entirely subordinate to tactics and psychology."
• Not every item of news should be published. Rather must those who control news policies endeavor to make every item of news serve a certain purpose.

The progressives are corrupting language which consequently corrupts thought. Everything becomes meaningless and anything can be "justified". A classic example:

Outrage after Ketanji Brown Jackson says she 'can't' define the word woman: 'Legit bizarre'

Supreme Court nominee Ketanji Brown Jackson took heat on Twitter when she refused to define the word "woman" for Sen. Marsha Blackburn, R-Tenn.

www.foxnews.com

Totally appalling that a person who is on the US Supreme Court, a guru of the law, can elucidate on simple biology. This implies that Ms Jackson would be arbitrary and capricious in making judicial rulings since words are defined by the individual not the legal text. Lewis Carroll wrote:

“When I use a word,’ Humpty Dumpty said in rather a scornful tone, ‘it means just what I choose it to mean — neither more nor less.’​

Consider, on the surface, this innocuous headline where Kamela Harris glowing speaks of how social media should help the government, sounds fine at first blush. But, the word "government" has not been clearly defined by Harris. Reading between the lines, what she implies is a US government run by the Democratic party. Kamala Harris: Social Media Must Work With Government To Uphold And Protect Democracy. This is very similar to where Nancy Pelosi "demanded" that the media help the Biden administration: Pelosi gripes media not helping ‘selling' $3.5T bill trillion budget reconciliation bill. That is not the media's job.