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[Pat Hartman]

I suppose, if they have the wherewithal to produce them The POINT of the second amendment was that the government should be afraid of the people, not the other way around. At the time of the Revolution, the British military and the American citizens were pretty closely matched. The citizens didn't use cannons but they had the wherewithal to produce them should it come to that. And everyone made their own ammunition. Also during that period many households in cities and all households outside of cities had guns. Strangely, during that period, guns just didn't up and kill people of their own volition. Everyone respected guns and taught their children from an early age that they were not toys.

Given the advances in military technology since the Constitution was written, the second amendment is almost moot since the citizens really have no defense against actually military troops.

 

[AccessBlaster]

So, everyday Americans should be allowed to own nuclier weapons?

Probably the dumbest thing I'll hear today, oh wait Karen Bass and Gavin Newsom have yet to speak. I'll reserve my judgment.

 

[moke123]

The POINT of the second amendment was that the government should be afraid of the people, not the other way around.

Some argue the point was to have a citizen militia rather than a standing government army.

 

[Pat Hartman]

Some argue the point was to have a citizen militia rather than a standing government army.

Unless you read all of Article I

 

[Thales750]

This has already been violated to such an extent that it is meaningless.

How do you mean?

Gun owner ship has been growing ? Your views are so distorted literally on every subject. Do you care that facts rarely ever mesh with your words?

The United States has the highest estimated number of civilian guns per capita globally, with an estimated 120.5 firearms for every 100 people. This represents a significant portion of the world's total civilian-held firearms, with the US owning approximately 46% of the global total. In 2020, Gallup reported that 44% of US households have guns, and 32% of adults personally own a firearm.

 

[Thales750]

Probably the dumbest thing I'll hear today, oh wait Karen Bass and Gavin Newsom have yet to speak. I'll reserve my judgment.

You must be feeling pretty good Pat approves of your opinion.

I'm sorry the question was to deep for you. It was meant to establish boundaries as to what level of weaponry Pat thought should be off limits. She went on to explain that even nuclear weapons should be allowed.

So really, not as dumb of a question as you say. Fanatics can't hide their spots.

 

[The_Doc_Man]

The entire point of the 2nd Amendment was that citizens should be able to defend themselves. But if you read the supplemental discussions, that EXPLICITLY includes the ability to tell either an invader OR their own overreaching government to F.O. and go pound sand.

I'm not generally in favor of having nukes around, but if Iran eventually develops their own viable nukes, expect air quality to go downhill real fast. Now THAT would definitely qualify as "atmospheric damage" in my book.

You want to know where I draw the line? If there is to be balance, the bad guys need to fear me as much as I fear them. That is the true meaning of the word "deterrence." Read that as you like.

 

[Thales750]

The entire point of the 2nd Amendment was that citizens should be able to defend themselves. But if you read the supplemental discussions, that EXPLICITLY includes the ability to tell either an invader OR their own overreaching government to F.O. and go pound sand.

I'm not generally in favor of having nukes around, but if Iran eventually develops their own viable nukes, expect air quality to go downhill real fast. Now THAT would definitely qualify as "atmospheric damage" in my book.

You want to know where I draw the line? If there is to be balance, the bad guys need to fear me as much as I fear them. That is the true meaning of the word "deterrence." Read that as you like.

I've been a gun owner my entire life. But I have opinions about licensing and such that hard core righties belive is an infringement.

 

[AccessBlaster]

You must be feeling pretty good Pat approves of your opinion.

I'm sorry the question was to deep for you. It was meant to establish boundaries as to what level of weaponry Pat thought should be off limits. She went on to explain that even nuclear weapons should be allowed.

So really, not as dumb of a question as you say. Fanatics can't hide their spots.

Ok, Gavin Newsom and Karen Bass have spoken, your off the hook. They are dumber.