Habemus papam! (2 Viewers)

[Pat Hartman]

Who?

All the members of Congress and other pundits who get on TV and push for more restrictive gun laws every time some criminal hurts other people. In this last case with the Egyptian radical trying to set Jews on fire with is home made flame thrower and his Molotov Cocktails. He didn't even use a gun. But that didn't stop the House idiot from railing against guns.

 

[Thales750]

If it makes liberals lose their mind...the answer is yes

There it is, the root cause of every problem facing Americans.

 

[AccessBlaster]

There it is, the root cause of every problem facing Americans.

You shouldn't be surprised that I don't take liberal nonsense seriously.

 

[Thales750]

You shouldn't be surprised that I don't take liberal nonsense seriously.

I'm not surprised. There are 60 million of you folks, whose entire political mantra is contempt for liberals. Trump is the greatest conman in American History. His followers see victory in the spreading of contempt.
A group of people that claim they are practicing Christians.

I don't have contempt for these people, but i would like to see them repent. I usually don't speak to morality i have enough of my own repenting to do. You can't most of those folks to even admit actual fact or history, how you gonna get them to face their demons?

The truth is, no one can do anything to help a person acknowledge their demons, let alone encourage them to cast them out.
Unconscious Incompetent is the first step to developing a better person, unfortunately many people never move to the next step.
Conscious Incompetent.

 

[AccessBlaster]

I'm not surprised. There are 60 million of you folks, whose entire political mantra is contempt for liberals. Trump is the greatest conman in American History. His followers see victory in the spreading of contempt.

News flash, I knew most liberals weren't serious people long before I ever heard of Trump.

 

[Thales750]

News flash, I knew most liberals weren't serious people long before I ever heard of Trump.

the thing is liberals are not the big problem. Division, blame an contempt are the problem. Of course your feeling for liberals was already there and mostly out of proportion. Just like theirs are similarly exaggerated.

Trump plays to that. That's probably why you accept such an incredible looser as the Chief. What has really changed ss that it has become completely acceptable to cast a wide net around all Trump dissenters and claim they must be Liberals.

Trump got elected because his campaign made moderates believe that Biden was the cause of the inflation, a bold and insidious lie. liberal despising conservative took it as win for their side. The antiliberal side. Now the world is fractured and the US has literally lost greatness in the short time this maniac has been in office. We are actually closer to loosing the World Reserve Currency holder status then probably since before WWII.

I 100 percent blame the Dems for loosing 2 elections, and handing the reigns over to this lunatic. But you should blame yourselves for thinking it is some kind of mandate to practice contempt.

Anyway, for my part, I will try to refrain from using a language style that fails to remove barriers. That's part of why you have heard less from me on this subject lately, And as you know, I have been training my AI partner. a much more relevant endeavor to be sure, but no less difficult than this conversation has been over the last few months. I must say though, the GPT and I are making progress.

I wish we (Americans) could do the same.

 

[AccessBlaster]

the thing is liberals are not the big problem. Division, blame an contempt are the problem. Of course your feeling for liberals was already there and mostly out of proportion. Just like theirs are similarly exaggerated.

Trump plays to that. That's probably why you accept such an incredible looser as the Chief. What has really changed ss that it has become completely acceptable to cast a wide net around all Trump dissenters and claim they must be Liberals.

Trump got elected because his campaign made moderates believe that Biden was the cause of the inflation, a bold and insidious lie. liberal despising conservative took it as win for their side. The antiliberal side. Now the world is fractured and the US has literally lost greatness in the short time this maniac has been in office. We are actually closer to loosing the World Reserve Currency holder status then probably since before WWII.

I 100 percent blame the Dems for loosing 2 elections, and handing the reigns over to this lunatic. But you should blame yourselves for thinking it is some kind of mandate to practice contempt.

Anyway, for my part, I will try to refrain from using a language style that fails to remove barriers. That's part of why you have heard less from me on this subject lately, And as you know, I have been training my AI partner. a much more relevant endeavor to be sure, but no less difficult than this conversation has been over the last few months. I must say though, the GPT and I are making progress.

I wish we (Americans) could do the same.

Let’s be honest, a lot of this outrage is coming from people who are just butt hurt that after years of throwing everything at Trump, nothing sticks. He’s the Teflon Don. Impeachments, indictments, media hit jobs all of it just bounces off. Every attack only seems to fuel him and grow his base. That doesn’t mean his supporters are brainwashed, it means the opposition has no credibility left.

You can scream about unity all day, but if you're calling half the country delusional for not hating the guy, you're not trying to unite, you’re trying to shame and silence. It’s not working.

People didn’t vote for Trump because they worship him. They voted for him because the alternative was worse, policies that failed, elites that lied, and a system that treats anyone right of center as a threat to democracy.

 

[Pat Hartman]

You can scream about unity all day, but if you're calling half the country delusional for not hating the guy, you're not trying to unite, you’re trying to shame and silence. It’s not working.

For people like you, it's all about Trump - the person. You hate him with a purple passion that blinds you to reality. You call him Hitler and accuse him of murdering millions. (I'm still looking for the bodies). Hyperbole is one thing. Accusations like this are totally something else. They are intended to endanger the life of the President and all who support him. By association you think Trump supporters are also evil so they should be threatened with violence. ICE agents should be doxed so that their families are also endangered. Now, the left who used to love masks, hate masks because ICE agents have been forced to wear them to protect their families. That my friend is simply more hypocrisy. And that is why you have no credibility. They are fine with the "free Palestine" protesters wearing masks. If you all didn't have double standards, you would have no standards at all.

Conservatives don't hate liberals. They hate liberal policy. They hate the hypocrisy that liberals manifest in order to maintain their conflicting standards. They don't hate individuals.

 

[The_Doc_Man]

Division, blame an contempt are the problem.

<gasp>*<choke>*<cough> IT HAPPENED AGAIN! Something popped up on which we agree.

 

[The_Doc_Man]

Trump plays to that.

(In reference to the division plaguing this country)...

Libs claiming that Trump will end democracy in this country DON'T play to that division?

 

[Pat Hartman]

Libs claiming that Trump will end democracy in this country DON'T play to that division?

Pretty scary the way they always refer to it as "our" democracy. They don't even know what form of government we have

 

[Thales750]

(In reference to the division plaguing this country)...

Libs claiming that Trump will end democracy in this country DON'T play to that division?

It's not either-or, its both. But there is no sense in me sending blame to them on this thread is there?

 

[The_Doc_Man]

But there is no sense in me sending blame to them on this thread is there?

Oh, for pity's sake, if you were worried about not making sense, why did you come here in the first place?

 

[Thales750]

Oh, for pity's sake, if you were worried about not making sense, why did you come here in the first place?

To see if even the most ardent Cool Aid Drinkers could be brought to the well of clear water.

 

[The_Doc_Man]

To see if even the most ardent Cool Aid Drinkers could be brought to the well of clear water.

The most ardent Cool Aid drinkers are called Progressive Liberals.

 

[Thales750]

The most ardent Cool Aid drinkers are called Progressive Liberals.

No arguments here. but they are massively overpowered by the sheer numbers of Conservative true believers. And if you compare the most extreme, you see many similarities in the level of contempt, and fanaticism. You miss read that part, Doc because you are so far out in right field.

lets make a matrix
Gun Ownership.
Where should the line be drawn on whose is allowed to have what?
Climate Change and other pollutions
What is the percentage of the damage being done to the Earth by human activity?
Scale describing the value of Dems vs Repubs? this is too subjective skip this one

Energy policy
EPA
NASA
FBI
The Federal Reserve, that's a good one

Gold backed currency. this one probably doesn't really tell us anything

Here is one, maybe the best of all since so much of our entire ethos is about who gets this money, the most we spend on anything. The most anyone in the world spends, either per person or per country
Scale of 1 to 10 should we have universal health care. This is the tell. You have government funded Health Care.
Health Care is the one that matters the most.
Make the matrix. see what it says.

You answer this I will answer it plus any more you add.

 

[Pat Hartman]

Gun Ownership.
Where should the line be drawn on whose is allowed to have what?

The people's right to keep and bear arms SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED!!!!!!!!!!!!! This has already been violated to such an extent that it is meaningless.

 

[The_Doc_Man]

What is the percentage of the damage being done to the Earth by human activity?

OK, this is not intended as a flippant answer.

First, what, specifically, do you refer to as "damage"? We know that the Earth has gone through several periods of atmospheric instability but ... Earth abides.

Second, geological records suggest that Earth has had climate change, even at a violent level, in times before humans and their immediate predecessors existed. The Earth is still here. Forests are still here. Animals are still here, though evolution has changed the profile of some of the animal species inhabiting the planet. Which, according to Paleontology records, is quite normal. From the viewpoint of humans, things are a bit dicey sometimes, but from the viewpoint of the Earth, we're fine.

Third, folks focus on CO2 but in fact methane and water vapor are also major contributors among the greenhouse gases. It is very hard to sort out specific contributions. We get lots of atmospheric pollutants - in the form of sulfur oxides - from active volcanoes. We get gaseous pollutants from natural venting of petroleum domes that are under the oceans.

In order to answer that "percentage" question with anything other than pure speculation, we would have to undertake one of the most difficult surveys in human history. Therefore, forgive me if I don't have an answer.

 

[Pat Hartman]

Just be happy that we've smartened up quite a bit and the Monongahela no longer catches fire.

 

[Thales750]

The people's right to keep and bear arms SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED!!!!!!!!!!!!! This has already been violated to such an extent that it is meaningless.

So, everyday Americans should be allowed to own nuclier weapons?