I want an HDTV ... now what?

[KalelGmoon]

lol, I know this is offtopic for this thred but with Richs remark about someone in their right mind paying that kind of money to play silly games, I just had to reply. two summers ago I spent around 1200 dollars US and built a computer for the sole purpose of playing video games. just thought it was kinda funny and all

 

[Rich]

lol, I know this is offtopic for this thred but with Richs remark about someone in their right mind paying that kind of money to play silly games, I just had to reply. two summers ago I spent around 1200 dollars US and built a computer for the sole purpose of playing video games. just thought it was kinda funny and all

Send me the money, I can put it to better use

 

[MrsGorilla]

Most of the US programs were hardly viewable due to the endless advertisement stops. When watching a live popconcert for approx. 1.5 hours, the program was interrupted by annoying lenghty advertisments, which made watching the show almost impossible.

It is irritating. That's why I love our TiVo so much. We can record something and watch it later and skip through all that stuff. It really works out better anyway since I don't get to watch much TV until after the littleun is in bed.

 

[Vassago]

Thanks for pointing that out Vassago, but I understood that some of the programs broadcasted are in interlined ( actually I found the appropriare word > interlaced) , whereas others are progressive, i.e. Dutch TV channel 1 broadcasted p (progr.) and Discovery channel broadcasted i ( interlaced).
Understood also that the ( HD) TV set is able to recieve both processes.
But since I do not have HD TV, I can't substantiate that.

Interlined and interlaced are the same thing. All tvs, non-HD included, accept both as I stated in my previous post. Good tvs upconvert interlaced to progressive. Best tvs upconvert everything to 1080p.

 

[Vassago]

I've seen both plasma and lcd Vas, I don't agree that the picture quality is as good on an lcd as the plasma. The lcd might be better for gaming, but then who in their right mind would spend that amount of money just to play silly games?

I'm not saying to buy an lcd to play games by any means. Most new plamsa tvs also have a game mode, so that shouldn't play a part in deciding what kind of tv to get, just the model if you plan on playing games, should support some sort of game mode.

In my opinion, the picture is better on an lcd than on a plasma. Everyone seems things differently and as you said in another post, it also has more to do with the source than the tv in more circumstances.

One more advantage LCD and DLP tvs have over plasma is they tend to get higher native resolutions in a smaller screen size. This means you'll see more detail on an lcd to dlp tv that in 1080p natively with a 42" display than a plasma with a 720p native display of the same size.

One more advantage plasmas have over lcd and dlp is that they produce better blacks, meaning you'll see more detail in darker scenes.

 

[Ron_dK]

It is irritating. That's why I love our TiVo so much.

Great Cindy, I wasn't aware of TiVo, which seems to be avialable in the USA only. Will search for European equivalents. As you said, record the stuff one like and get rid of these nasty and overproduced advertisements.
Thanks for the tip.

 

[Rich]

Recorders that filter out the adverts have been available for many years

 

[Rich]

One more advantage plasmas have over lcd and dlp is that they produce better blacks, meaning you'll see more detail in darker scenes.

Yes that's true,but I still think the plasma has the edge on depth and 3d image

 

[Ron_dK]

Recorders that filter out the adverts have been available for many years

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Revox ?

 

[Rich]

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Revox ?

God, that name's old, I'd associate that name with audio recording by the way

 

[Ron_dK]

God, that name's old, I'd associate that name with audio recording by the way

Yeah , right, but you were probably thinking of the Tapedecks A/B 77, whereas
I referred to the Revox B230-S video recorder. With this one, when recording German channels like ADR, WDR, etc, could filter out the adverts. There is still
a way of filtering out by means of signals superposed on the ( German ) channel frequency, including program start and stop. However, on the majority of the German, Belgium ( state owned) channel broadcasts, there's hardly any advert.
( same like BBC1, BBC2 )

 

[sha7jpm]

was shopping in selfridges in birmingham last week and the shop assistant told me that for hd ready tvs it is only worth buying a tv of 40 inch (preferably 42") or more to see a difference in HDTV

any sizes lower than that and when watching an HDTV programme you will see no difference whatsoever...

is this true? he seemed to say that that is the difference bx HDready and HDFull..

there is no point in forking out for a 37inch if it cannot show HD in HD quality..

as for recorders one of the hard drive platforms is the way to go.. ( i think!)

John.

 

[Rich]

as for recorders one of the hard drive platforms is the way to go.. ( i think!)

John.

I wouldn't go down the hard disk route, if the hd packs up you've lost everything, unless you've got another as back up

 

[sha7jpm]

true..

I was thinking of buying one with a dvd drive also so I can burn them off for archiving etc...

most seem to come with that facility..

my biggest problem is making sure we can fit it on our wall.. the brackets are crazily expensive...

J

 

[Rich]

my biggest problem is making sure we can fit it on our wall.. the brackets are crazily expensive...

J

Mine sits on a pair of cooker stability brackets, £3.60 the pair

 

[Vassago]

was shopping in selfridges in birmingham last week and the shop assistant told me that for hd ready tvs it is only worth buying a tv of 40 inch (preferably 42") or more to see a difference in HDTV

any sizes lower than that and when watching an HDTV programme you will see no difference whatsoever...

is this true? he seemed to say that that is the difference bx HDready and HDFull..

there is no point in forking out for a 37inch if it cannot show HD in HD quality..

as for recorders one of the hard drive platforms is the way to go.. ( i think!)

John.

Sort of....

What you have to realize is that every tv has a maximum contrast ratio that they display everything in. Most of the time, the larger the screen the bigger the contrast ratio. This means that larger tvs can show more detail than smaller tvs. For example:

A signal is broadcasted in 1080i, an HD resolution by definition. You have a 42" tv with a native resolution of 720p. This means that that specific signal is going to be converted to 720p, thus you will lose some detail, but being that the size of the tv is smaller than say a 61" 1080p native resolution tv, you shouldn't be able to see the detail you would have lost anyway.

However...

A signal broadcasted in 480i (most analog and standard digital channels) or 480p (most dvds), non-HD resoltuions, may look better to you on that same 42" tv because the signal is not being upconverted as much. You won't be able to see how bad the signal really is compare to the 61" tv.

It all comes down to the eye of the person watching it. Some people hate how bad analog and standard digital looks on larger displays with higher contrast ratios that they buy smaller displays just to get away from that look. I personally don't have a problem with it, especially when NFL days come along and I'm watching games in 1080i.

 

[Rich]

, especially when NFL days come along and I'm watching games in 1080i.

Stop bragging, my notebook won't handle 1080i

 

[Bodisathva]

...especially when NFL days come along and I'm watching games in 1080i.

Looks like the Super Bowl party is at Vass' house...

 

[Rich]

Looks like the Super Bowl party is at Vass' house...

That must be one of those masochists parties that we read about

 

[Bodisathva]

That must be one of those masochists parties that we read about

Only for us Steelers fans