Insular and isolated?

I think most people don't realize when they are being contemptuous, I know I’m guilty. But in your case it seemed evident your intend was to be a butt. I could be wrong, you may well be that socially illiterate...

And as far as being insular, I'm not sure where your clouded eyes read that I admitted to being insular. Not that I see anything wrong with it. We're all insular to a certain extent, don't you think Anthony?
 
A very complicated question to parse. In reviewing the other posts, the quick response is "insular". Based on this definition: "Ignorant of or uninterested in cultures, ideas, or peoples outside one's own experience."

As a quick example of an inappropriate insular US viewpoint, I have been very troubled by Romney prostration of "failed" European socialist economies. Furthermore, Obama has not demonstrated any real understanding of foreign affairs.

As another example of an inappropriate insular US viewpoint; both Obama an Romney have taken up China bashing for China "stealing" America jobs. Well we are supposed to be a free market economy and economic globalization is a fact.

Finally, there is the US "mission" to spread the US version (definition) of freedom and democracy to the world, whether those in the affected countries want it or not. Not to mention the beating of "war drums" for the US to act as a world police force. One example, the calls for US involvement in Syria for "humanitarian" reasons and to assist (unknown) so-called "freedom fighters".

PS: See the movie 2016. That delves into the concept of how Obama's world view has been shaped by Colonialism and Marxism.
 
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Romney prostration of "failed" European socialist economies.

Can you expand on this Steve, I'm not sure what you're getting at? :)
 
I think most people don't realize when they are being contemptuous, I know I’m guilty. But in your case it seemed evident your intend was to be a butt. I could be wrong, you may well be that socially illiterate...

And as far as being insular, I'm not sure where your clouded eyes read that I admitted to being insular. Not that I see anything wrong with it. We're all insular to a certain extent, don't you think Anthony?

I would contest teh idea that teh fact I'm obviusly not a republican fan - and posted stats suggesting many many other worldwide wouldnt be either would necessarily make me a butt.

We are all insular to a certain extent - there is nothing wrong with it - somewhere like Japan is fairly insular.

Isolated in viewpoint - doesnt mean incorrect either.

But Japan doesnt send their army round the world anymore - which is why we are talking about the US and your a day off the election?

I just though it interesting that the map seemed to show those states more isolated/republican in their views the more insular in geography as well maybe their viewpoint.

I dont think theres any need to resort to words like contemptuous, butt, social illiterate.

Where have you been east?
 
...As another example of an inappropriate insular US viewpoint; both Obama an Romney have taken up China bashing for China "stealing" America jobs. Well we are supposed to be a free market economy and economic globalization is a fact.

I'm not sure that this is rooting in an insular attitude Steve. The issue seems to be they get paid pennies an hour and and we have minimum wage laws. How can the two coincide? Seems both sides should be alarmed and be working on solutions. If the resource drain continues china and the us will be in trouble...
 
Furthermore, Obama has not demonstrated any real understanding of foreign affairs.

How so? What would the President have to do to convince you that he understands foreign affairs?

As another example of an inappropriate insular US viewpoint; both Obama an Romney have taken up China bashing for China "stealing" America jobs. Well we are supposed to be a free market economy and economic globalization is a fact.

Yes, this plays well to most Americans. Its not that we're not educated enough, its that those Chinese keep stealing our jobs. I liked how the President stated in one of the debates that some of the jobs we lost are not coming back. That's an honest and realistic answer. We simply cannot compete with people who are willing to work for a few dollars a day.

PS: See the movie 2016. That delves into the concept of how Obama's world view has been shaped by Colonialism and Marxism.

I saw one of the creators of this movie on an interview (Dinesh D’Souza), he made a very poor case for his work. I'd say its on the same level as the people who think Bush wanted 9/11 to happen so he'd have justification to start a war.
 
Can you expand on this Steve, I'm not sure what you're getting at? :)
During the Republican primaries, Romney was on anti-socialist tirade. I previously wrote: "Romney (in running as a candidate for the US Presidency) has been lambasting the economies of Europe as an example of the failure of socialism. He is doing this, of course, to hold Europe up as an example of a failed economic system so that he can implement a capitalistic based rescue plan to restore the US economy to its former glory. I suspect that Romney's assertions are incorrect. So for those who live in Europe, what is your reaction?"

See this earlier post: Romney on the "failed" Socialist Countries of Europe
 
How so? What would the President have to do to convince you that he understands foreign affairs?
It's not in our National interest to become involved in a civil war. The "promotion" of the so-called Arab Spring may be in the process of biting us back. Obama is now claiming credit for ending wars that he could have ended four years ago. Getting a Noble Peace Prize before accomplishing anything and then keeping the wars going, seems a bit suspicious.

Yes, this plays well to most Americans.
Obama spews "hot air" wrapped in a populist message.

I saw one of the creators of this movie on an interview (Dinesh D’Souza), he made a very poor case for his work.
I would say; see the movie and make-up your own mind. I did and I thought it was very well done.
 
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I would contest teh idea that teh fact I'm obviusly not a republican fan - and posted stats suggesting many many other worldwide wouldnt be either would necessarily make me a butt.

I'm not a republican fan either. Nor am I a fan of the british royalty thing but I don't intend to start a thread belittling you about it. After seeing interviews of the crowds outside the palace thing after the wedding I understand why the queen lady thing thinks shes smarter and better than the common brit :p

I dont think theres any need to resort to words like contemptuous, butt, social illiterate.

Where have you been east?

I don't think there's a need to resort to calling people isolated and insular either but the bar seemed to be in need of a lower standard.

...and I traveled east to work this morning ;)

What the heck does it matter to you where exactly I've been. if I told you I climbed the tallest mt in the world you'd only try to use it to belittle me more, it seems to be your nature.
 
..I liked how the President stated in one of the debates that some of the jobs we lost are not coming back. That's an honest and realistic answer.

To me it's the attitude of a weakling that has no faith in the american people.
 
Yes, this plays well to most Americans.

Not to the ones I know, but I forget, you do see us on tv everynight, so we should yield to your expertise :rolleyes:

Edit: Sorry Adam, I did say I was going to stop with the one liners didn't I :o
 
I apologize to Adam, Anthony and Brian for being brash the last couple days. I get worked up easy and is why I stay away for long periods. All the best to you guys :)
 
I'm not a republican fan either. Nor am I a fan of the british royalty thing but I don't intend to start a thread belittling you about it. After seeing interviews of the crowds outside the palace thing after the wedding I understand why the queen lady thing thinks shes smarter and better than the common brit :p



I don't think there's a need to resort to calling people isolated and insular either but the bar seemed to be in need of a lower standard.

...and I traveled east to work this morning ;)

What the heck does it matter to you where exactly I've been. if I told you I climbed the tallest mt in the world you'd only try to use it to belittle me more, it seems to be your nature.

Who are you a fan of then? Will you/have you voted?

I though we had cleared up being insular or isolated in itself is not a problem - so I dont know how thats akin to your told name calling tactics.

We were talking about people being insular - You mentioned you had been east - have you worked in China for 10 years, or just once visited Atlantic city? They would seem to be at reasonably dfferant ends of the insularity scale?

All all fairly simple straight lines conversation here Ken.

Does the geography of the US vote not get discussed in the US ? There does seems some coastal/geographical link with having a less isolated viewpoint from the rest of the word and not?

Why not keep to the topic - your simply feeding your own paranoia now.




My word - your hard work.
 
I went to Narita several years back on business Anthony. And my guess is the more heavily populated and diverse areas of the country tend favor democratic policy and vice versa.
 
It's not in our National interest to become involved in a civil war. The "promotion" of the so-called Arab Spring may be in the process of biting us back. Obama is now claiming credit for ending wars that he could have ended four years ago. Getting a Noble Peace Prize before accomplishing anything and then keeping the wars going, seems a bit suspicious.

The first part, okay, so you're against supplying one side with weapons/training/etc? Is that what you're referring to as "involved"?

Second part, the President has no control over receiving the Nobel Peace Prize, so that argument really doesn't make sense.

Obama spews "hot air" wrapped in a populist message.

As does every politician in every country in every part of the world.

I would say; see the movie and make-up your own mind. I did and I thought it was very well done.

Fair enough. These types of movies tend to do well with people who are seeking to have their opinions validated. I'm sure if someone made a movie describing how President Obama was not born in the USA, many people would like it and find it well done. The accuracy of it would be a completely different issue, of course.
 
I went to Narita several years back on business Anthony. And my guess is the more heavily populated and diverse areas of the country tend favor democratic policy and vice versa.

There you go - youve been to places Ive never even heard of?! You didnt care for it much? AS I said previously Japan has kept itself to itself a fair bit - so kept a quite distinct culture.

I'd love to go. MY wife lived there for a few years. Id have to say Japanese would be my cuisine of choice - I make a mean Japanese curry.

Doesnt the he fact that teh repuclian vote seems more insular - but more internationally meddling maybe seem worrisome to you. Does to me.

Where does your vote go Ken? Its not democrat clearly, you have said its not repulican. Are you left right, of a typical republican. What happened to the tea party people?
 
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I really don't think the extrapolation you suggest is very strong. Could be, I may just be blinded by own ignorance. From what I've experienced, outside the tourist dollars, most self sufficient people would rather mind their own business and be left alone. Mind you I'm not speaking of politicians, who knows what drives them...
 
I really don't think the extrapolation you suggest is very strong. Could be, I may just be blinded by own ignorance. From what I've experienced, outside the tourist dollars, most self sufficient people would rather mind their own business and be left alone. Mind you I'm not speaking of politicians, who knows what drives them...

Yes maybe the vote isnt more meddling - just the politicians they vote for maybe, an unitended consequence - or it might have been.
 

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