i have a login form where i used the attached DB from this link http://www.access-programmers.co.uk/forums/showthread.php?t=163000&page=2 (it is the very last DB on the last page, not to be confused with the ones near the beginning of the thread. Thank You HTC!). what i would like is to know at what time users logged in and at what time they logged out (closed access)? any help would be appreciated. thanks!