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Nah vassago.Vassago said:
Not at all in the conventional matter,but i still dont do it the pro seth_belgium way.
Seith, may be it happens too much where u live that no one can seem to ever stop it in that its even getting embedded into kids who later grow up and call those who fight for a not-too-bent-world narrow-minded.seth_belgium said:
About your 21st century. I wonder why people rant too much about machines
Even Albert Einstein who was a deist like you,existed in the 20th century(...i dont know whether the super-computer existed) and almost came to the edge of knowledge about the universe than any other human, believed that there must be a superior authority to us.And this implies that there must be an opponet with differing views on the other side.Then who are you seith not to believe that there is no evil!
Here is one of his quotes;
All deists agree that nature reveals the existence of God. As Albert Einstein wrote, "My religion consists of a humble admiration of the illimitable superior spirit who reveals himself in the slight details we are able to perceive with our frail and feeble minds. That deeply emotional conviction of the presence of a superior reasoning power, which is revealed in the incomprehensible universe, forms my idea of God."
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No idea, your brother/sister, I don't know, is it a trick questionjsanders said:
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Skea: This only prooves that Albert Einstein also made mistakes.
Anyway, this debate could go on forever and ever and we'd still be fighting for our opinion.
I admit I was a bit too harsh to judge you (Yes, I was judging), BUT I'd really like for you to admit to your mistakes to. It's just not nice to condamn me as being evil... It makes me mad when people do that. Doesn't the bible indeed say you shouldn't judge people. According to your beliefs, God will do that.
So lets conclude that I'll have an interesting debate waiting for me on judgement day...
For me however, this discussion is over. My religion is opposed to fighting...
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Anyway, this debate could go on forever and ever and we'd still be fighting for our opinion.
I admit I was a bit too harsh to judge you (Yes, I was judging), BUT I'd really like for you to admit to your mistakes to. It's just not nice to condamn me as being evil... It makes me mad when people do that. Doesn't the bible indeed say you shouldn't judge people. According to your beliefs, God will do that.
So lets conclude that I'll have an interesting debate waiting for me on judgement day...
For me however, this discussion is over. My religion is opposed to fighting...
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Thats a novelty. . . . . . . It must be a rare one then - it can't be one of the mainstream onesseth_belgium said:My religion is opposed to fighting...
they all love a good scrap and a nice bloody warCol
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seth_belgium said:
Apology accepted. However, i never condemed you or any minority group as evil, but i just tried to bring to light that acts llike homosexuality are those that another superior force on the other side uses to toment powerless me and you.
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skea said:but i just tried to bring to light that acts llike homosexuality are those that another superior force on the other side uses to toment powerless me and you.
How do you know this to be a fact?
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because I'm educatedskea said:
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Well yes Col and a certain Christian country has now decided to bring its unique form of justice to the world by simply blowing up suspected terrorists, nothing like a fair Christian trial ehColinEssex said:Thats a novelty. . . . . . . It must be a rare one then - it can't be one of the mainstream ones
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I never had the pleasure of public school per se, but I was taught to question and think for myself.skea said:
There's a distinct difference between education and brainwashing, most religions rely on the latter
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Isn't he the Gov. of Californiajsanders said:
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Hi,
Taking this slightly off-topic but i'm always amazed by the ways in which we defend our ways of life particularly using the accusations of bigotry and zealotry.
BBC2 and 4 had a fantastic series written and presented by Jonathan Miller on the birth of atheism. http://www.bbc.co.uk/bbcfour/documentaries/features/atheism.shtml
I watched the whole series and what struck me was the feeling that atheism is in itself a religion it just so happens not to have a God at it's centre rather a principle; that there is no God. Look at the definition;
It is defended as hard as any religion and has devotees who write books - one of my quotes in my sig is from a founding father of atheism who wrote on the subject - defining the the Atheistic principles. It was also interesting to note that the intention of atheism is to define for oneself a moral code. Mr Miller's major failing was his in ability to accept that atheism had it's tainted acolytes - such as Stalin who he freely accepted was a monster - as much as any traditional religion. He saw them as aberations in an otherwise perfect concept - sound familar?
My personal belief is a monsterous person or group will use any and all methods at their disposal to implement their will. That the method be persecution in the name of religion or atheism is not actually important to them it is simply a means to an end.
As for homosexuality. It too has it's preachers and devotees. It too has it's bigots and idolitors and that makes it as human as the next way of life.
Odds are it has a genetic base with environmental variables as does so much of our nature. I doubt whether anyone would choose a lifestyle that attracts so much hostility.
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Taking this slightly off-topic but i'm always amazed by the ways in which we defend our ways of life particularly using the accusations of bigotry and zealotry.
BBC2 and 4 had a fantastic series written and presented by Jonathan Miller on the birth of atheism. http://www.bbc.co.uk/bbcfour/documentaries/features/atheism.shtml
I watched the whole series and what struck me was the feeling that atheism is in itself a religion it just so happens not to have a God at it's centre rather a principle; that there is no God. Look at the definition;
It is defended as hard as any religion and has devotees who write books - one of my quotes in my sig is from a founding father of atheism who wrote on the subject - defining the the Atheistic principles. It was also interesting to note that the intention of atheism is to define for oneself a moral code. Mr Miller's major failing was his in ability to accept that atheism had it's tainted acolytes - such as Stalin who he freely accepted was a monster - as much as any traditional religion. He saw them as aberations in an otherwise perfect concept - sound familar?
My personal belief is a monsterous person or group will use any and all methods at their disposal to implement their will. That the method be persecution in the name of religion or atheism is not actually important to them it is simply a means to an end.
As for homosexuality. It too has it's preachers and devotees. It too has it's bigots and idolitors and that makes it as human as the next way of life.
Odds are it has a genetic base with environmental variables as does so much of our nature. I doubt whether anyone would choose a lifestyle that attracts so much hostility.
TS
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No, it's not brainwashing at all, it's arrived at by examining all the facts for oneself and then coming to the only logical conclusion.skea said:
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