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[Deleted member 147267]

The missionaries were protected by Spanish law until a 1750 treaty transferred the land they were on into Portuguese rule. The Portuguese allowed slavery. The Spanish religious hierarchy ordered the missions to close down in order to avoid enslavement but they refused. The Portuguese were not going to allow missions for protecting natives that they could enslave. A joint Spanish and Portuguese force attacked in order to remove the mission. Whether or not their goal was to also enslave those missionary natives or simply eradicate the mission itself, I can't recall. Does that help?

 

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The missionaries were protected by Spanish law until a 1750 treaty transferred the land they were on into Portuguese rule. The Portuguese allowed slavery. The Spanish religious hierarchy ordered the missions to close down in order to avoid enslavement but they refused. The Portuguese were not going to allow missions for protecting natives that they could enslave. A joint Spanish and Portuguese force attacked in order to remove the mission. Whether or not their goal was to also enslave those missionary natives or simply eradicate the mission itself, I can't recall. Does that help?

Yes. thanks.

 

[Minty]

I enjoy 'The Fifth Element'. One crazy cast of characters. Some very unlikely situations. More comedy than action.

One of my all-time favourite films. The plot is great and the cast of characters generally just funny. And a pretty good soundtrack to boot.

Luc Besson has done a raft of really good films, and some not so great.
Léon was another real favourite.

Jean Reno is also one of my favourite actors.

 

[The_Doc_Man]

Maybe more because of Milla Jovovich 's dumb reactions for human's customs.

I have to admit a certain degree of lust for Milla. I'm an "eye" person and her eyes get to me. Ditto with Scarlett Johanssen. Adriana Lima also rivets my attention. I look at other things, don't get me wrong. But a beautiful pair of eyes will make me focus every time. In junior high, there was a young woman named "Gina" who had the most amazing ice-blue eyes. At the time there was an age difference and she already had a boyfriend. But I could have stared into those beautiful eyes for a long time.

 

[Deleted member 147267]

I could have stared into those beautiful eyes for a long time.

because the eyes are the window unto the soul. It follows then, that we might equate beautiful eyes with inner beauty without realizing it.

 

[The_Doc_Man]

Poetic, but... I'll buy it.

 

[deletedT]

I'm an "eye" person and her eyes get to me.

Only eyes? It describes how I feel.

 

[kevlray]

because the eyes are the window unto the soul. It follows then, that we might equate beautiful eyes with inner beauty without realizing it.

Thus why Liz Taylor was considered a very beautiful woman. I recently read a autobiography by Eddie Fisher. Her eyes definitely got his attention.

 

[deletedT]

In Bruges
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After messing up on a hit, hitmen Ray and Ken are ordered by their boss to hang low in Bruges.

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Added to my list to watch this weekend.

Thank you.

 

[kevlray]

I thought about another movie it is kind of quirky. Murder by Death (1976). You have to know your mystery writer characters (from the 40's and 50's) or you will really be lost. I think I watched three times before I got a handle on most of the movie. Yes there a lot of bad jokes.

 

[deletedT]

I thought about another movie it is kind of quirky. Murder by Death (1976). You have to know your mystery writer characters (from the 40's and 50's) or you will really be lost. I think I watched three times before I got a handle on most of the movie. Yes there a lot of bad jokes.

I've watched that a long time ago and I really enjoyed it.
Thanks for suggesting.

 

[Deleted member 147267]

Maybe this is a bit off topic but it has to do with movies. Momma is watching Con Air (Nicholas Cage has been discussed here and after watching snippets of CA as I'm on AWF I have to agree with those sentiments). Once again, I see something technically wrong with the action and I'm wondering how common this is among viewers. I think my problem (?) stems from being a truck mechanic for 25 years, dealing with all sorts of equipment, fuels and the like. I see so many things done in the movies and think "that could never happen". In this case, bad guy on top of a highjacked fire truck careening through the city turns the hose on the pursuing hero and blasts him with water. HELLO!! Fire truck would have to stop in order to engage the PTO in order to create water pressure! IF it was already engaged, because of the high speed chase the PTO would have grenaded by the time the nozzle was turned on.

Well, that's just one of hundreds of such technical faux pas that don't escape me. Drives my wife nuts!

 

[The_Doc_Man]

@Micron

The whole point of movies (other than documentaries) is to entertain. As is true with ALL fiction, some worse than others, you have to suspend your disbelief and skepticism because otherwise you just blew the price of admission. One of my favorite movies where this principle is in full force is True Lies - with horse stunts, helicopter stunts, pyrotechnics all over the place, and a harrier jump-jet sequence that is totally improbable. But here is where the point jumps in to full view.

If you only look at things with critical eyes, you can never enjoy imagination. You can't laugh at exaggerations. Yet it is Man's imagination that makes him soar above the clouds - first in fiction, but then in reality once he learns how to turn one into the other.

It was Man's imagination to have orbital satellites for communication (Arthur C. Clarke, e.g.). It was Man's imagination that we could communicate with a device that fit into the palm of your hand, but now I carry a clamshell style flip phone just like the one used in Star Trek except mine has more control buttons. It was Man's imagination to have music available in every home (Edward Bellamy in Looking Backwards, written in 1897), and now we have 40+ cable music channels on my low-end cable package.

What is that line from Prof. Tolkien's works? "This story has grown in the telling"? People tell fish stores about the "one that got away." They brag for vanity, or they exaggerate to make a humorous point. YES it is totally impossible for people to do the things they do in movies - but those impossible things become the stuff of dreams. Sometimes it is the totally impossible that makes some of the best movie watching. Who can forget that moment in the Chris Reeves Superman movie when the helicopter is about to crash and for the first time, we see the Man of Steel as he rescues Lois Lane and the chopper with that stirring John Williams score echoing in the background? One of the great moments in cinematic history. But if you can't suspend your disbelief, that's just a showy bit of special effects and some nice music ruined by a screaming woman.

It's all about viewpoint.

 

[AccessBlaster]

I see so many things done in the movies and think "that could never happen

Like when bullets spark? Lead is non ferrous metal along with the metals used in (most) bullet construction.

 

[Deleted member 147267]

Well Doc, you are quite right about suspending your imagination, which I can do in a lot of cases. Would a spy know how to pilot a jet? Plausible.
Tires screeching on the beach sand? No. Every vehicle that goes over a cliff exploding like it has 50 pounds of C4 on it? No. Ever notice how the regular good guys go into a building with pistols, ball caps and short sleeves but the extras are in full riot gear with AR 15's'? I'd just like to see and hear less nonsense in cinema but the water thing was probably a bad example of what not to do.

Anyway, this might be a separate thread topic and maybe Tera won't appreciate me hijacking it.

 

[deletedT]

@Micron No as long as it’s a movie talk, I appreciate any kind of input.

@The_Doc_Man I think it’s the first time I‘m not with you and actually I think you are wrong.
I know what you mean about suspending disbeliefs. I’m with you as long as it’s a science fiction. I suspend my disbelief and accept the scene where a device can take you back to future. Your mobile or my car navigation system may be something that was used in a 007 movie long before any of them were invented. I enjoy watching Avatar and accept somewhere in far future a trip to another planet and live there and start killing the native inhabitant in a virtual shape is possible.

But you can not change the physics rules because it’s a movie.
You can not accept a movie scene where the actor drops something from a hight and instead of falling, it goes up. It’s against gravity and will NEVER happen in any future or any age. If you let go something, it falls off, it won’t go upward. What me and perhaps @Micron is saying, is not about imagination. It’s about impossibilities in action movies.
Search for Action movies that defies physics rules. What happens in recent action movies in not imagination, it’s a bunch of impossibilities that will never ever happen.

I’ve told it before and tell it again. Lies in movies are common but it depends on how a director offer the lie. ET is a fiction movie, but no matter how many times you watch it, you still find it interesting. Because the director shows a fiction and not something impossible. I’ve seen movies where the actor jumps from an airplane to another. No matter how deep you’re hypnotized and feel yourself in the scene, as soon as you see something like that, you wake up and think how is it possible at all. So an acceptable lie is different with an impossible action.

What you said about imagination and how it helped to have orbital satellite, they came true because they don’t break physics rules. Some movies laugh in the face of physics. How they may be a reality in future? John Matrix Plants Bombs Outside...Which Explode From The Inside (Commando). As a Navy man, do you think will it be possible at all?

Just when we thought the Fast and the Furious franchise couldn't get anymore ridiculous, director Justin Lin proves us wrong with sixth entry, which pushes the envelope even closer towards mayhem not far off what we'd expect to see in a cartoon. The scene in question has Letty (Michelle Rodriguez) sitting atop a tank which is catapulted over a freeway, sending her flying into the air, surely to her grisly demise when she impacts upon the freeway pavement. Dom (Vin Diesel), however, has different ideas, driving his car into a guardrail while sitting on top of it, catapulting him through the air, allowing him to catch Letty (who probably should have hit the pavement by now), and land on a passing car. Of course, suffers severe internal injuries despite flying through the air at an unimaginable speed and landing on a sheet of metal travelling who-knows-how-fast. And yet, it works.

Those who are interested, can sit and watch it as a cartoon.
For me, It’s not imagination. It’s a perfect nonsense. Some may enjoy watching it, but for sure not me, nor any movie lover.
That’s why a movie in this rank never find its way to a well known awards.

 

[deletedT]

In this scene the actor jumps out of a running car and flies ahead of the car. Even if you know nothing about acceleration in physics, this scene makes you laugh. If you are a movie lover, you will hate me for posting this cartoon here.

Wait for the scene when the actress jumps off the bridge, then tell me what you think.

 

[The_Doc_Man]

@Tera

We don't have to agree on this; it is a matter of tastes that differ, though perhaps they don't differ so much as you might think.

As it happens, I don't watch movies like the Fast and Furious franchise members. Maybe it is exactly because they are so ludicrous in their stunts and yet they take themselves seriously in a real-world setting. I watched the first Tom Cruise Mission: Impossible movie and haven't watched any of the others. Perhaps I avoid those pictures because they go too far with the stunts and not far enough with the scenario to make it escapist. We watch movies to escape reality, not to sit inside someone else's view of a boringly violent reality.

Perhaps the difference is that the director has to come up with particular mind-set and make the movie follow that mind-set. Which perhaps is why I like the movie True Lies, an obviously tongue-in-cheek movie that is over the top but is having fun going there. We've also mentioned The Fifth Element as a movie with a pot-load of impossibilities but who cares? It's still done with, as we say in the USA, a "wink and a nod" to humor.

Look at the movie King Kong - specifically the Jack Black remake. There is an acknowledgement of an old song-and-dance movie tradition in it. When Anne Darrow has confronted Kong in New York and he carries her off to a park with a frozen pond, they perform a classic pas de deux (with Kong doing most of the "dancing" by sliding across the ice while holding her). That inclusion is an homage to the classical way of making movies despite the effects and technology that went into animating a very believable Kong.

Perhaps I agree in part that some of those effects just strain credibility too much. Perhaps it is because they don't take you past a particular boundary, whereas the sci-fi and fantasy epics take you far enough away that you EXPECT impossibilities and thus can get into them. Consider The Matrix (the first one) which has a lot of violence - but suddenly your reality shifts and you don't know what to expect any more. You have crossed the threshold and can suspend disbelief, perhaps because your mind can recognize that you are in an imaginary reality. Or consider Alita: Battle Angel as another example that is built with violence but not a lot of humor. Even so, it is a fun movie to watch because you are so clearly past the boundaries of your reality that you can suspend your disbelief.

I stand by my earlier comments, but perhaps with the understanding that not every movie takes you far enough away from reality for the physics violations to no longer matter to you. If it is not immersive enough, if it does not take you far enough, ... then is when you say "Oh, come ON, you can't do that!"

 

[onur_can]

Red
It's a very nice movie. A man's quest for justice
Watch you will be impressed.

 

[Deleted member 147267]

Sure, movies like Back To The Future, Kong and The Matrix seem to violate the "rules" as they apply to common sense, physics or whatever. But I think there is a line between fantasy and stories that are supposedly based in reality. When you violate the laws of mechanics, physics or any other science without setting the tone for the movie (i.e. farce/spoof vs reality) you had better establish which vein your movie is in. That's why BTTF is OK with me, despite the fact that it's generally accepted that we can't go back in time. But if the movie is fiction supposedly grounded in reality, then my tolerance for bending/breaking those rules is lower.