The real J D Vance

I will say I think JD Vance - as much as I like him - is not the best choice for VP. Trump should have chosen a more moderate person, perhaps a female, just my opinion. I also love Mike Pence but I wouldn't say he's electable at this time necessarily.
 
AccessBlaster said:
I'm unsure if you noticed, but they've been "solidified" since 2016. It's the Dems who are worried about Kamala's record. It's not only bad but very inconsistent even for a DEI hire. ;)
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Maybe a better choice of words would have pander to his base. It's still the same sword. MAGA contempt has to be fueled. The rest of us would like to a more moderate approach.
 
I actually love that the media is relentlessly trotting out these emails from Vance about where he frustratedly said he hated the police and was close friends with a trans - way to get some progressive votes! Republicans are going to vote for them anyway
 
Thales750 said:
Maybe a better choice of words would have pander to his base. It's still the same sword. MAGA contempt has to be fueled. The rest of us would like to a more moderate approach.
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At least he has a base, Biden also had a base, but where is the DEI's base? She hasn't earned anything. She's a social climber and people see it.
 
Wonder when they'll be activating agent Swift.

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We semi-adopted this super cute feral cat about a month ago, he's a conservative obviously :D

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Mike Krailo said:
Look who's talking.
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I don't tell how I see the world. I just tell you that yalls narrow. You know your views, but you don't care. And you show contempt.
My contemp is about in the box thinkers from both sides , that are willing to make thing worse for the sake of being right.
Are you willing to entertain the concept of man made emissions are effecting global warming?
I am pragmatic, I am critical of my ideas, and I often seek out information that changes my perception.
I don't believe in beliefs. I think there are as many, or more, conservative conspiracies as democratic.
I really don't get how conservative can all repeat the same garbage, and somehow believe that it is their original thinking.

Yall share that behavior with Liberals. Seek out the blue flower on the mountain.
 
Thales750 said:
I am pragmatic, I am critical of my ideas, and I often seek out information that changes my perception.
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There is nothing pragmatic about being wrong or denying what is obviously true. Those that tout climate change hysteria do not follow their own advice and only wish to control others by gas lighting something that is not in our purview world wide.

Same with covid lock downs, they want everyone else locked down while the rules dont apply to them. Thats not opinion, thats fact.
 
Mike Krailo said:
There is nothing pragmatic about being wrong or denying what is obviously true. Those that tout climate change hysteria do not follow their own advice and only wish to control others by gas lighting something that is not in our purview world wide.

Same with covid lock downs, they want everyone else locked down while the rules dont apply to them. Thats not opinion, thats fact.
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You are categorically claiming, and praising, the absolute furthest Right Wing Dogma as possible. Dogma you learned from talking heads paid for by the very same people that profit from our current system.
 
Pat Hartman said:
And what are you trying to do to mine? You claim to be a moderate but you cannot even denounce the murderers of Hamas and Hezbollah which are both terrorist organizations whose mission is expressed as killing all the Jews. They teach their children to count by killing dead Jews. These people are intentionally killing Israeli citizens. They do not target military installations. No wonder no neighboring country will accept any of the Gaza residents. They've all been burned before by accepting Palestinian refugees. Kuwait got smart and expelled 300,000 Palestinian refugees after the gulf war because the Palestinians took the side of Iraq during the invasion. This represented 18% of the country's total population.

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The 3 Times Palestinians were Kicked out of other Arab Countries

Are the Palestinians now experiencing the consequences of their past actions?
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We have absolutely no common ground when you cannot unequivocally denounce terrorism and that is very bad for this country's future. You may not go out and march with the gays for Palestine (about as stupid as stupid gets. It is hard to believe people can actually be this stupid but they are. These people should win the Darwin award this year.) but that doesn't make you a moderate. Blaming Israel doesn't make you a moderate. It means you simply do not understand the Palestinian position which is a non-negotiable kill all the Jews.
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I have offered no opinion what-so-ever on Hamas. You have declared many times, like what you just said. "There can be no discussion with people that don't align with your world view". You just said that.

And you still have no ideas what my views are on Iran Proxy Wars. You don't care, in that regard you are identical to your liberal counter parts.

The biggest threat to our society is not liberals, it's dogma. If I were talking to liberals I would say that the biggest threat to our society is not Conservatives, it dogma. I hesitated to write that last part, knowing it would be taken of context and redacted to support MAGA world views.

I'm more pragmatic than I am moderate, by the way.
 
Thales750 said:
I have offered no opinion what-so-ever on Hamas. You have declared many times, like what you just said. "There can be no discussion with people that don't align with your world view". You just said that.

And you still have no ideas what my views are on Iran Proxy Wars. You don't care, in that regard you are identical to your liberal counter parts.

The biggest threat to our society is not liberals, it's dogma. If I were talking to liberals I would say that the biggest threat to our society is not Conservatives, it dogma. I hesitated to write that last part, knowing it would be taken of context and redacted to support MAGA world views.

I'm more pragmatic than I am moderate, by the way.
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I have to say though, from your writings you worship moderate just as much as any person worships maga or liberal.
But who says that moderate is necessarily the best viewpoint? What if the far left is actually 'right' on an issue, or what if the far right is actually 'right' on an issue? That makes moderate just as wrong as any of them could be.
You want to appear reasonable by being moderate, but the moderate opinion is not necessarily the right one. Could be, but not necessarily the best.
 
Thales750 said:
You are categorically claiming, and praising, the absolute furthest Right Wing Dogma as possible. Dogma you learned from talking heads paid for by the very same people that profit from our current system.
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Kool-Aid comes in many flavors including liberal Lime, Goofy Grape, and Sour Lemons.
 
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