Transgenders in Olympics

[KitaYama]

The Olympics officially bans all transgenders from competing in female competitions.
I wonde if they cancel all the records made by them too.

Transgender women to be banned from all female Olympic events after 'scientific review’: Report

New policy expected early next year under IOC would end current guidelines allowing transgender athletes to compete with lowered testosterone levels to 'protect female category' - Anadolu Ajansı

www.aa.com.tr

IOC moving toward ban on transgender athletes in women’s Olympic events

In the past, each Olympic sport’s international federation has been allowed to set its own rules on transgender inclusion.

www.nytimes.com

 

[The_Doc_Man]

I cannot say I'm surprised. I feel sorry for the trans athletes because while they aren't actually the gender they think they are, they ARE persons with feelings, desires, aspirations, etc. This will have to be very disappointing to them. It can hardly be anything else. I am glad, however, that the decision was deferred until a hard-science study was made to confirm the findings.

 

[Isaac]

The Olympics officially bans all transgenders from competing in female competitions

Is this the correct way to say it? If you are a transgender man (meaning you're actually a woman, but wishing to be a man), you can still compete in female competitions.

It always annoys me when people's/news articles' wording makes it sound like we are "Excluding all transgenders from sports".
They're NOT excluded - they can still play on the team as they were born.

 

[KitaYama]

Is this the correct way to say it? If you are a transgender man (meaning you're actually a woman, but wishing to be a man), you can still compete in female competitions.

It always annoys me when people's/news articles' wording makes it sound like we are "Excluding all transgenders from sports".
They're NOT excluded - they can still play on the team as they were born.

Here's my take:
Trans women (male at birth) who went through male puberty are likely not going to be eligible for female category in many sports, especially at elite level, under forthcoming IOC/federation rules. Because their body belongs to the stronger gender.

Trans men (female at birth) transitioning to male are generally eligible for the male category under existing frameworks, with fewer or no special restrictions. Because their body belongs to weaker gender.

 

[The_Doc_Man]

I believe that if you wish to compete in a sport in the division that matches the gender assigned to you at birth, nobody would complain about that attempt. HOWEVER, if you have taken hormonal treatments, some of them may qualify as performance enhancing drugs, which would greatly complicate your eligibility. Other treatments would tend to REDUCE muscle mass, giving you a disadvantage against your "peers."

I'm going to step away from this for the reason that I think it is a fluid situation. We might do better to wait for the IOC to put something in writing. Until then, I don't want to know. But it does trigger a memory of a limerick related to this question...

A gay young lad from Khartoum
met a lesbian lass in her room.
They spent the night
in a terrible fight
over who would do what, and to whom.

 

[Isaac]

Here's my take:
Trans women (male at birth) who went through male puberty are likely not going to be eligible for female category in many sports, especially at elite level, under forthcoming IOC/federation rules. Because their body belongs to the stronger gender.

Trans men (female at birth) transitioning to male are generally eligible for the male category under existing frameworks, with fewer or no special restrictions. Because their body belongs to weaker gender.

That makes good sense, but I think the current rule is actually simpler.
But here we are on politics again, I'll bow out , as I have too many opinions on it

 

[DickyP]

...

A gay young lad from Khartoum
met a lesbian lass in her room.
They spent the night
in a terrible fight
over who would do what, and to whom.

Hadn't seen this since I left school (in 1967).

 

[Isaac]

I think all I get out of that is I now know how to pronounce Khartoum