Transgenders in Olympics

[Vassago]

Playing devil's advocate, I think it may have more to do with their discomfort knowing that there is a movement afoot that seems to be changing, gaining traction, increasing whispering in the ears of 12 yr olds who are ALREADY going through the most difficult and confusing time of their life, whispering that they may be unhappy wiht their gender - a topic already of prime confusion to anyone going through puberty - and making the situation diabolically worse, and that that "whispering" is being encouraged and amplified and utilized by some in the spheres of education, administration, law, and medicine. (well medicine you already know their motivation - $$ - since the explosion of transgenderism in the last few years, multi billions of new facilities being built, etc. etc.)

Oh please. This is not happening at any level of scale. There are far more teens questioning their gender or sexual orientation in silence because their parents would at best disown them, at worse, hurt them. That is far far more common, and I think you know it.

 

[BlueSpruce]

It's such a minority case. There are also many more intersex people in the world than some realize. Swyer Syndrome is about 1 in 80,000 people. Born with XY chromosomes but biologically presenting female. They are often born with highly underdeveloped testes that never descend (of course) and can have varying degrees of testosterone.

This is only one syndrome. There are many others that completely throw out the male/female identification rules. Where would they fall?

I think we just need to move away from gender separated sports. Science has taught us that this is a fallacy.

The athletic competitors rule. If enough of them complain, they could boycott and then events get cancelled and money is lost.

 

[Vassago]

The athletic competitors rule. If enough of them complain, they could boycott and then events get cancelled and money is lost.

I don't think there would be a much complaint with finding a better way to separate levels of physical ability. I don't know the answer, but this isn't working anymore already if people are going to turn something that is practically a non-issue like simply 5 trans college students across the country competing in a sport of their identity into some kind of issue suddenly because the base tells you to. Smoke and mirrors.

 

[BlueSpruce]

I don't think there would be a much complaint with finding a better way to separate levels of physical ability. I don't know the answer, but this isn't working anymore already if people are going to turn something that is practically a non-issue like simply 5 trans college students across the country competing in a sport of their identity into some kind of issue suddenly because the base tells you to. Smoke and mirrors.

There's strength in unity. Didn't enough female football (soccer) players from Spain unite to get the head coach of their National Team disgraced and fired for sexual misconduct? So if enough bio female competitors start a movement to ban transgender females, the issue takes center stage in the Court of Public Opinion, the media magnifies it, and transgenders ultimately get banned, or all females walkout from all sports in solidarity.

 

[BlueSpruce]

So the victims need to complain louder and give up on their life long dreams until all this get sorted. Yeah, seems reasonable.

.. or hope the governing bodies do the right thing.

 

[Vassago]

I'm being reminded partly of why I left.

 

[Isaac]

It's used to be such a minority case

 

[Isaac]

something that is practically a non-issue like simply 5 trans college students across the country competing in a sport of their identity into some kind of issue suddenly because the base tells you to. Smoke and mirrors.

That's a myth, there's a dozen articles every month about trans taking prizes and winning contests - maybe it's 5 when you limit it to professional sports, but that's already admittedly a tiny population

 

[Isaac]

It's such a minority case. There are also many more intersex people in the world than some realize. Swyer Syndrome is about 1 in 80,000 people. Born with XY chromosomes but biologically presenting female. They are often born with highly underdeveloped testes that never descend (of course) and can have varying degrees of testosterone.

This is only one syndrome. There are many others that completely throw out the male/female identification rules. Where would they fall?

I think we just need to move away from gender separated sports. Science has taught us that this is a fallacy.

Your making it seem like intersex people is a significant issue comes across to me exactly the same way me making it seem like transgenders in sports is a significant issue comes across to you.

Anyway, I have little interest in discussing it -it seems simple, keep each gender in their own sport. I'm not even sure why recently it's become so seemingly complex or controversial. Actually I do, because as transgenderism takes on a life of its own, statistically it is bound to become something that has to , unfortunately, be dealt with somehow