Trump Administration Predictions (2 Viewers)

[Pat Hartman]

Didn't the court allow the tariffs to stay in effect until the case is heard?

I'm also pretty sure that congress delegated tariff powers to the President to use for just the reasons Trump is using them for. And the reason they delegated the power was because the President is able to make quick decisions and use tariffs to get our trading partners to the table when necessary. Congress takes too long to pass bills to be able to use tariffs effectively

 

[Steve R.]

True, but here’s the problem: if the Supreme Court strikes down Trump’s use of IEEPA, he’ll simply move to Plan B, Section 232 of the Trade Expansion Act. I mentioned this act earlier; under it, Trump was able to impose tariffs on cars, aluminum, and steel without challenge. Section 232 takes longer to implement, but he still has options.

Essentially this is the same strategy used by Biden to circumvent the legal constraints with student loans. This strategy is acceptable with @RogerCooper when Democrats use it, but it is NOT acceptable when Republicans use it.

 

[RogerCooper]

Trump's proposed tariffs are fluid. At this time, they are negotiating points. Consequently, one cannot affirm with any assurance that they would result in higher prices. Moreover, Democrats instead of offering their own suggestions on resolving the trade imbalance and deficit spending are simply obstructing the Republican agenda with endless whining and hysterical faux assertions. Also consider, that there is now a flood of evidence that Democrats have been lying to the citizenry for over four years. Democrats deserve all the criticism that they receive.

There are not proposed tariffs. My company has already been charged these illegal tariffs.

Are you saying that higher costs don't cause higher prices? Trump has already called upon Americans to accept a lower standard of living and made extra-legal threats against Wal-Mart.

 

[RogerCooper]

Didn't the court allow the tariffs to stay in effect until the case is heard?

I'm also pretty sure that congress delegated tariff powers to the President to use for just the reasons Trump is using them for. And the reason they delegated the power was because the President is able to make quick decisions and use tariffs to get our trading partners to the table when necessary. Congress takes too long to pass bills to be able to use tariffs effectively

Congress did not delegate tariff powers to the President under IEEPA. Read the law.

 

[AccessBlaster]

Didn't the court allow the tariffs to stay in effect until the case is heard?

Yes

 

[Steve R.]

Are you saying that higher costs don't cause higher prices? Trump has already called upon Americans to accept a lower standard of living and made extra-legal threats against Wal-Mart.

That was the Biden strategy through the new green deal. Lower the standard of living by raising the cost of products that were deemed environmentally damaging and to punish corporations not abiding by ridiculous environmental mandates.

 

[AccessBlaster]

Are you only interested in criticizing Democrats?

Republicans need to do a better job of citing the authority under which they can impose tariffs, simply shouting 'activist judges' doesn't cut it.

There, now you do the same.

 

[Pat Hartman]

The Republicans in Congress are feckless pieces of dog poo. Was that unequivocal enough? But at least they don't hate America or root for the President to fail regardless of the consequences.

 

[AccessBlaster]

Agreed!

 

[Steve R.]

Congress did not delegate tariff powers to the President under IEEPA. Read the law.

Recall Obama's classic statement: "I have a pen and phone". So when Obama and/or Biden believed that they could act without the approval of Congress, they did. Reading the law is "old school" since orders can be issued either by pen or by phone.

 

[AccessBlaster]

Congress did not delegate tariff powers to the President under IEEPA.

Courts are the final interpreters of how far presidential power goes under IEEPA and that’s why it still needs review.

 

[RogerCooper]

The Republicans in Congress are feckless pieces of dog poo. Was that unequivocal enough? But at least they don't hate America or root for the President to fail regardless of the consequences.

And Trump is nothing more than a grifter. His latest grift involves selling pardons.

 

[Pat Hartman]

His latest grift involves selling pardons.

There is probably no law against selling pardons although maybe there should be. But I seriously doubt your source for this info.

He is however selling green cards. But many other countries do also. Again, doesn't make it right but the point is to attract people with money who will create businesses in the US so the practice is very common around the world. Check it out.

 

[Isaac]

Steve, Isaac and AccessBlaster, what is your position on Trump's tariffs? Are higher prices OK if they come from Republicans? Are you only interested in criticizing Democrats?

I'll stick with what I've said from the beginning :: I'd like to give it 6-12 mo to see the long term effects of the tariffs, if they even persist for long enough to make some permanent or semi-permanent type of change. (For example, if the tariffs cause some products to cost more, but result in other major benefits to the country, I'd consider the totality of the situation).

I'd like to reserve judgment until that time, although what he has done so far has made me doubt his general acumen.

PS. Yes, I'm quite interested in criticizing Republicans, but I still think their general worldview is better for the country than the Democrats is.

 

[Isaac]

What problems do you think legalization solves?
1. Addiction? That solution requires a will to quit and some level of medical intervention including substitute drugs like methadone.
2. Illegal manufacture? Once you legalize hard drugs, you also need to provide a way to ensure that the supply is consistent and free of containments. To maintain their business, the drug suppliers simply need to undercut the legal price.
3. Desire to find a new, higher, high? That's what designer drugs do and that won't be the goal of the legal drugs.

Legalizing drugs solves the black market problem. There is no need for a cartel to exist if drugs are legally sold from shops.

PS when you are really addicted, your will doesn't do you much good -

 

[AccessBlaster]

Legalizing drugs solves the black market problem. There is no need for a cartel to exist if drugs are legally sold from shops.

Even though marijuana is legalized here (Ca). It's done nothing to the illegal marijuana trade, because people still don't want to pay taxes. When you involve the government in illicit trade it rarely works i.e. prohibition.

 

[Steve R.]

SCOTUS Rules Trump Can End Biden's Mass Migration Pipeline

SCOTUS ruled on Friday that President Donald Trump can move forward with ending former President Joe Biden's parole pipeline for migrants while the case makes its way through an appellate court.

www.breitbart.com

The concern here, isn't that the Supreme Court is allowing Trump to end Biden’s mass migration pipeline pending appeal, but the apparent Trump Derangement Syndrome exhibited by Jackson and Sotomayor.

Meanwhile, Jackson, whose dissenting opinion Sotomayor joined, called the ruling “plainly botched” because “it undervalues the devastating consequences of allowing the Government to precipitously upend the lives and livelihoods of nearly half a million noncitizens while their legal claims are pending.”

You have to be kidding me. The illegal immigrants upended their lives to move into the U.S. Upon arriving most have probably gone into homeless shelters and/or are otherwise living off of welfare. Deportation would not seem to be a devastating consequence and a precipitous upending of their livelihoods. Moreover, how many of these illegal immigrants were even vetted to determine that their lives were somehow endangered if they were to remain in their home country? Biden illegally let these people into the US. Trump has the authority to deport them. Liberal justices, especially at the US Supreme Court level, have no business projecting a sob story to frustrate the president from executing his official actions.

 

[moke123]

The pot prices in Ma. have been falling steadily the last year or so. Some shops are going out of business. So many people just grow their own and give away the excess. An ounce that used to cost $300+ now costs about $75. There is no black market at all that I have seen.

My friend grew 2 plants which produced 3.3 lbs. He couldn't even give it all away and wound up throwing a lot out.

 

[moke123]

SCOTUS Rules Trump Can End Biden's Mass Migration Pipeline

SCOTUS ruled on Friday that President Donald Trump can move forward with ending former President Joe Biden's parole pipeline for migrants while the case makes its way through an appellate court.

www.breitbart.com

The concern here, isn't that the Supreme Court is allowing Trump to end Biden’s mass migration pipeline pending appeal. but the apparent Trump Derangement Syndrome exhibited by Jackson and Sotomayor.

You have to be kidding me. The illegal immigrants upended their lives to move into the U.S. Upon arriving most have probably gone into homeless shelters and/or are otherwise living off of welfare. Deportation would not seem to be a devastating consequence and a precipitous upending of their livelihoods. Moreover, how many of these illegal immigrants were even vetted to determine that their lives were somehow endangered if they were to remain in their home country? Biden illegally let these people into the US. Trump has the authority to deport them. Liberal justices, especially at the US Supreme Court level, have no business projecting a sob story to frustrate the president from executing his official actions.

I'm sure your dying for Rubio's "Office Of Remigration."

https://www.axios.com/2025/05/30/state-department-office-of-remigration-restructure

 

[Pat Hartman]

Legalizing drugs solves the black market problem. There is no need for a cartel to exist if drugs are legally sold from shops.

Price wins. As long as the cartels are willing to undercut the legal outlets, they retain enough of the market to be dangerous.

Liberal justices, especially at the US Supreme Court level, have no business projecting a sob story to frustrate the president from executing his official actions.

And yet they are doing it. Who has the authority to stop them from usurping Presidential powers? Clearly Congress is unwilling to intervene so Trump is left to his own resources. The Republican members of Congress are simply feckless pieces of dog doo and way too many are infected with TDS. The rest are simply wimps. At least the members of the House can and should be primaried in 2026.