US Senate voted to block President Obama’s tough new climate change regulations

[Bladerunner]

A little more of this maybe?

You left out one thing,,,,,,Relative Morality.....

 

[Frothingslosh]

You left out one thing,,,,,,Relative Morality.....

You mean like saying it's okay to murder children? Because you lost any right to even mention morality when you said that.

 

[AccessBlaster]

You left out one thing,,,,,,Relative Morality.....

Let me rephrase it, maybe people need to step back and take a breathe.

 

[Bladerunner]

Let me rephrase it, maybe people need to step back and take a breathe.

you talking about me or your cohorts?

am getting things together in order to answer Galaxiom's question. He did ask a question.

Surely you want to know the answer.???????????

Of course I will expect every word I say to be twisted into an unrecognizable form by one or two or more of the regulars but that is ok,,,For every one of your kind (atheist) that are 10 of those would really want to know.

I mean not harm to anyone but want everyone to have an everlasting life.

While I have you on the line, AB, I refered to the end times and the rapture in that it is close at hand. No other prophecies have to be fulfilled for it to happen. It could happen in the next 15 minutes or sometime in the next few years. It is God's timetable and we just do not know. However, all the actions of the Middle East is far worse that it has ever been with all the players of the Great Tribulations (7 years) appear to be getting into starting positions. Don't read anything into it more than that.

Like I said when a billion people disappear within about 15 seconds around the world, you will know what I have said here is true. That is if you are still here?????????

Doc,,, ISIS may or may not be around at that time but I think you got something bigger to worry about by then, The anti-christ will make his way onto the scene and you will be forced to accept the "sign of the beast" in order to eat, drink and be merry. lol. Of course you ( a fallen parishioner of the local Church) already know what is going to happen but are just denying it. Oh, one other thing at this time that you already know,,,,you probably have run out of the ability to make that right choice.

Now, all of you out there that like to curse and fuss about God not being real, it is OK, The Pharaoh of Egypt (hardened heart and all) also did not believe and 10 times he refused to let the Hebrew people (slaves) go. But more on this topic later

Oh, before I go,,,, Galaxiom,,,,The Hebrews never enslaved any nation. Yes there were slaves as put forth by the laws of God but these were arrangements between the the slave and the master. This could only last 7 years and then it had to be resigned. One thing,,,,You were right, GOD did know what the Pharaoh of Egypt was going to do all the way to the end. Likewise, he also knows what you are going to do all the way to the end.

For right now I want each of you to have a safe and Blessed weekend. See you next week

Blade

 

[Frothingslosh]

Of course I will expect every word I say to be twisted into an unrecognizable form by one or two or more of the regulars but that is ok,,,

Weird definition of 'unrecognizable' you have there, when those of us who aren't twisted child-killer wannabes would call it 'quoting you word-for-word'.

For every one of your kind (atheist) that are 10 of those would really want to know.

Yes, that's why it's atheists who have always put more study into the bible than racist child-killer wannabes.

I mean not harm to anyone but want everyone to have an everlasting life.

Except children, because if you disagree with their parents, then they need to die, amirite?

While I have you on the line, AB, I refered to the end times and the rapture in that it is close at hand. No other prophecies have to be fulfilled for it to happen. It could happen in the next 15 minutes or sometime in the next few years. It is God's timetable and we just do not know. However, all the actions of the Middle East is far worse that it has ever been with all the players of the Great Tribulations (7 years) appear to be getting into starting positions. Don't read anything into it more than that.

Except for the Rapture, which is a line of bullshit created in the 1800's, Christian fanatics have been spouting this line of malarky for 2000 years.

Like I said when a billion people disappear within about 15 seconds around the world, you will know what I have said here is true. That is if you are still here?????????

Straight-up not going to happen, no matter what the voices in your head are telling you.

Doc,,, ISIS may or may not be around at that time but I think you got something bigger to worry about by then, The anti-christ will make his way onto the scene and you will be forced to accept the "sign of the beast" in order to eat, drink and be merry. lol. Of course you ( a fallen parishioner of the local Church) already know what is going to happen but are just denying it. Oh, one other thing at this time that you already know,,,,you probably have run out of the ability to make that right choice.

Again, your insanity != reality

Now, all of you out there that like to curse and fuss about God not being real, it is OK, The Pharaoh of Egypt (hardened heart and all) also did not believe and 10 times he refused to let the Hebrew people (slaves) go. But more on this topic later

You know the easy and simple way to win the argument with atheists and agnostics? It really should be quite simple of you're correct: provide conclusive, evidentiary, scientific PROOF of his existence.

Oh, before I go,,,, Galaxiom,,,,The Hebrews never enslaved any nation. Yes there were slaves as put forth by the laws of God but these were arrangements between the the slave and the master.

So out of curiosity, have you never read the Bible or are you simply lying again? Because the Bible you so adamantly maintain is literally true in all respects (save the ones that require you to be a decent person rather than a wanna-be child murderer) not only talks about enslaving women and children in conquered countries (and slaughtering all the men), but codifies slavery (including rules for selling your daughters into slavery). And no, it does NOT say that slavery must be willing, nor does it say it only lasts for seven years. Your seven year bullshit is for *HEBREW* slaves only, and doesn't apply to all of the enslaved conquered peoples. Also, note that that verse is in Exodus, which, last I checked, is in the same Old Testament you and Steve R insisted doesn't apply to Christians when I broke out all the old testament instructions to kill non-believers, anyone who lived near non-believers, and anyone who eats shrimp a couple weeks back.

This could only last 7 years and then it had to be resigned.

The seven year thing is covered above. NOWHERE does it say a slave can choose to no longer be a slave.

One thing,,,,You were right, GOD did know what the Pharaoh of Egypt was going to do all the way to the end. Likewise, he also knows what you are going to do all the way to the end.

1) No, what Exodus says is that God hardened the Pharaoh's heart in order to prevent him from releasing the Hebrews. That's active, not passive. That's the difference between a child slipping in the stream and you holding it underwater until it drowns because you disagree with its parents.
2) Omniscience denies free will. You can't have it both ways.

 

[The_Doc_Man]

Blade:

you probably have run out of the ability to make that right choice.

Oh, are you now ignoring the Parable of the Prodigal Son?

You might have been right if you had said that you doubted I would ever return to religion - but how DARE you comment on my abilities to decide for myself? AND, if there was ANY implication that I would be rejected for a late change, then you are explicitly ignoring the aforementioned parable.

In effect, you are making a judgment that WAS not, IS not, and NEVER WILL BE yours to make. You were explicitly warned against arrogantly making judgments that belong solely to your God, yet here you are making them.

I am going to assume that you have never been faced with a situation where the Bible's answer of "We are not meant to know God's will" (or equivalent ways of saying "I don't know why that happened") was an inadequate answer. I reached that point during my mother's slow decline into the chaos of Alzheimer's Disease. The Bible held no answers to that most important question, "Why?" - and once it fails to answer the most basic questions, it becomes one more useless book, regardless of its long lineage.

 

[Bladerunner]

Blade:


Oh, are you now ignoring the Parable of the Prodigal Son?

You might have been right if you had said that you doubted I would ever return to religion - but how DARE you comment on my abilities to decide for myself? AND, if there was ANY implication that I would be rejected for a late change, then you are explicitly ignoring the aforementioned parable.

In effect, you are making a judgment that WAS not, IS not, and NEVER WILL BE yours to make. You were explicitly warned against arrogantly making judgments that belong solely to your God, yet here you are making them.

I am going to assume that you have never been faced with a situation where the Bible's answer of "We are not meant to know God's will" (or equivalent ways of saying "I don't know why that happened") was an inadequate answer. I reached that point during my mother's slow decline into the chaos of Alzheimer's Disease. The Bible held no answers to that most important question, "Why?" - and once it fails to answer the most basic questions, it becomes one more useless book, regardless of its long lineage.

Hi Doc....... I said "probably" .... From What I can find (and you already know this), After the Gentiles are 'Raptured ' (sixth seal) there will be a time period, 38-40 "POSSIBLE" years prior to the opening of the 7th seal. The Bible does not specify what goes on during this time. I think from the time of the Rapture until Jesus Christ's 2nd coming, the only way to get to heaven will be to be martyred ( you will have to die in Jesus Christ's name). Of course, there will be people who do survive the the G.Tribulations, but most of them will be Jewish. Those that are left will know that GOD is truly the one and only GOD.

I do not presume to tell you anything DOC. As everyone here has, a choice but that type choice runs out at the Rapture and you know it. That is the bad part,,,you know it and seem to not really care???????

One other thing,,,, everyone of us on earth has to deal with the loss of a mother or father, grandparent, brother, sister, etc. in as many varied ways as there are birds of the air. The majority of people do not turn away from God but rather use God's love to heal us during these bad times.

 

[The_Doc_Man]

The majority of people do not turn away from God but rather use God's love to heal us during these bad times.

That is what I tried, but it didn't work. There was no healing to be found. I faced my father's death a lot easier because he went quickly. I miss him just as much - but it was my mother's torturous descent into mental oblivion that led me to ask the critical questions for which the Bible had no answers.

Using a statement like "the majority of people ...." merely shows me that you play the law of large numbers. But if you were a true student, you would recall that according to the Bible, each of us would stand alone (no large numbers present; strictly one-on-one) at the time of judgment.

I have taken my position because the house of cards that the Bible builds just fell apart for me. If you think there is any substance, then go ahead and believe. You would anyway, but I wouldn't try to stop you. My continued objection is that if you try to give me reasons to change my mind, they have to make sense, and all you are doing that I can see is that you are repeating one old tired verse after another - without regard to the nonsensical way that they come out in light of modern findings.

In essence, I realized that the Bible is like a stagnant pond. I don't need to swim in that pool any more.

 

[Frothingslosh]

Let's also not forget that in a world with a population of 7.3 billion, there are only approximately 2.2 to 2.4 billion Christians.

Hardly a majority of people.

The only way to get a majority would be to add Islam's 1.6 to 1.8 billion, but we are fully aware he refuses to accept that Muslims pray to the same god as Christians and Jews.

 

[Alc]

Let's also not forget that in a world with a population of 7.3 billion, there are only approximately 2.2 to 2.4 billion Christians.

Hardly a majority of people.

The only way to get a majority would be to add Islam's 1.6 to 1.8 billion, but we are fully aware he refuses to accept that Muslims pray to the same god as Christians and Jews.

If we can pick and choose which gods are real, I could definitely be tempted into the whole "make an offering to a specific god for specific purpose" thing, a la Rome or Greece. I think I'd find the division of labour among the deities quite comforting.