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[Rich]

Would "blackskin" be offensive?

Col

Yes, along with communist, socialist, Liberalist, equality, justice

 

[ShaneMan]

But there weren't any experts around in your days Len
and of course we weren't part of the American sue all culture then

"Part of America's sue all culture " doesn't have anything to do with this, except for your attempt at throwing another dart. Things were the same here back in the olden days. We did all sort of things back in the day, that the experts today will sue over today.

 

[ShaneMan]

Yes, along with communist, socialist, Liberalist, equality, justice

Dang Rich, did you wake up on the wrong side of the crib today?

 

[Rich]

"Part of America's sue all culture " doesn't have anything to do with this, except for your attempt at throwing another dart. Things were the same here back in the olden days. We did all sort of things back in the day, that the experts today will sue over today.

So why and where did you go wrong and why have you exported it here ?

 

[ShaneMan]

So why and where did you go wrong and why have you exported it here ?

Good question. Maybe we went wrong when all of these ultra sensitive groups sprung up and we started hearing about every concern from baby toys to hugging trees and companies making too much money, someone not being called by the right title or else I'll get offended, so on a so forth. Then greed comes in and we have lawyers making laws so that they can turn around and use these laws to bring action against whoever they can just to make money. As far as why we exported it to you. I guess we didn't want to be miserable all by ourselves so we sent a dose of it to the mother country.

 

[Rich]

As far as why we exported it to you. I guess we didn't want to be miserable all by ourselves so we sent a dose of it to the mother country.

We didn't need you to add to our misery, we've got Tony Bliar for that

 

[ColinEssex]

Actually, I've just successfully sued for compensation following an RTA last October. The amount of "free" money coming soon has enabled me to buy an additional motorbike - the Honda Pan European I posted on another thread.

I also successfully complained and got compensation for being mis-sold an endowment mortgage. (without the aid of a no-win-no-fee company)

So there are benefits for persuing a claim, but I disagree with these ridiculous claims that people are awarded.
You know the type - there was a loose paving stone in Leeds and I tripped in London and got £20,000 (thats an example not a fact)


Col

 

[Kraj]

My God! The UK is out of control! Your "sue-all" culture is just shameful...

 

[lmnop7854]

Why don't we just say that people are people, wherever they come from or live? It would seem that even if our "sue-all" culture rubbed off on the UK, there are people in the UK who think it's a decent enough idea to put to use. So not all of your inhabitants are virtuous, polite, and without shame - they are actually somewhat opportunistic, because even a bad idea sounds like a good one to them. People make their own choices. Even outside the US.

Lisa

 

[ColinEssex]

It would seem that even if our "sue-all" culture rubbed off on the UK, there are people in the UK who think it's a decent enough idea to put to use. So not all of your inhabitants are virtuous, polite, and without shame - they are actually somewhat opportunistic, because even a bad idea sounds like a good one to them.

So you're saying it was impolite, shameful, non virtuous and opportunistic of me to claim compensation for an injury (which I still have after 8 months) cause by some stupid woman driver who rear-ended me whilst I was stationary on my motorbike? and just what exactly do you know about my circumstances Lisa, to make you say I am shameful and opportunistic? you know nothing, thats what

Let me tell you Lisa, my bike was smashed out from under me - and me and the bike skidded across the road narrowly missing other traffic. A motorcycle accident usually means one of 3 things - minor injury, major hospitalised injury, or you're dead.
Don't tell me I'm opportunistic to claim because some brain dead tart can't drive a stupid bloody car. I was bloody lucky not to have been seriously injured or killed. And all she does is gets out her car and starts bloody crying, she didn't even come over to see if I was injured. I'm led on the road with a massive pain in my leg wondering what has been broken and she's bloody crying?

As for the mortgage, I was deliberately led down a path by an insurance advisor, and given no opportunity to review or compare different mortgage types. As a result, the insurance company fleeced me of alot of money and for no return. The UK Financial Standards Agency regulators have agreed the compensation payout to those in my position, as the insurance companies acted underhandedly and improperly.

If I'm impolite / shameful and opportunistic in your eyes then thats just tough baby. I am not going to be ripped off or injured without recompense through no fault of my own. especially by some air-brained stupid female driver or some mega-rich insurance company (a company that is American by the way )

Col

 

[KenHigg]

'just tough baby'...

Maybe you're simply too old to be riding a scooter

 

[ColinEssex]

'just tough baby'...

Maybe you're simply too old to be riding a scooter

Don't you bloody start as well

perhaps you'd like to tell me what you would do if a stupid woman car driver smacks you whilst you're stationary - does £1400 worth of damage to your bike and gives you a thrombosis in your leg that (I have been told) will always be there.

Just say "shame, never mind"?

Col

 

[KenHigg]

Don't you bloody start as well

perhaps you'd like to tell me what you would do if a stupid woman car driver smacks you whilst you're stationary - does £1400 worth of damage to your bike and gives you a thrombosis in your leg that (I have been told) will always be there.

Just say "shame, never mind"?

Col

Sorry...

 

[lmnop7854]

So you're saying it was impolite, shameful, non virtuous and opportunistic of me to claim compensation for an injury (which I still have after 8 months) cause by some stupid woman driver who rear-ended me whilst I was stationary on my motorbike? and just what exactly do you know about my circumstances Lisa, to make you say I am shameful and opportunistic? you know nothing, thats what

Let me tell you Lisa, my bike was smashed out from under me - and me and the bike skidded across the road narrowly missing other traffic. A motorcycle accident usually means one of 3 things - minor injury, major hospitalised injury, or you're dead.
Don't tell me I'm opportunistic to claim because some brain dead tart can't drive a stupid bloody car. I was bloody lucky not to have been seriously injured or killed. And all she does is gets out her car and starts bloody crying, she didn't even come over to see if I was injured. I'm led on the road with a massive pain in my leg wondering what has been broken and she's bloody crying?

As for the mortgage, I was deliberately led down a path by an insurance advisor, and given no opportunity to review or compare different mortgage types. As a result, the insurance company fleeced me of alot of money and for no return. The UK Financial Standards Agency regulators have agreed the compensation payout to those in my position, as the insurance companies acted underhandedly and improperly.

If I'm impolite / shameful and opportunistic in your eyes then thats just tough baby. I am not going to be ripped off or injured without recompense through no fault of my own. especially by some air-brained stupid female driver or some mega-rich insurance company (a company that is American by the way )

Col

Whoa, Nelly!!!! My response was really not directed at you, Colin, and I apologize for any misunderstanding. I am sure your claims are justified. I was actually responding to Rich, with his quote about the "American sue-all culture", as if that idea originated in the US, and couldn't possibly have been something that any other person in any well-meaning country could have come up with. Only us shameless Americans, out for a buck.

Now if you take offense at that, then I would like to request that everyone, on both sides of the pond, dispense with the global hateful remarks. When an individual expresses his/her opinion, it is the reality of the individual, not of their country of origin. And if some of us here in the US don't agree with the edicts of our Commander in Chief, then I would think it should make you UKers believe that there is a God, and that all of us aren't really the evil that is represented by our government.

I'm tired of hearing about how evil America is. I'm not happy with the President, and I didn't vote for him. But I am not an evil person, and I don't sue everyone I see, and I don't kill people in foreign countries, and I don't condone that behavior. Unfortunately, our media displays all of our imperfections loudly across the airwaves, and manyof us get a bad rep as a result. So stop putting words in my mouth, and aligning me with the ideals of my government. If I say I don't believe something, it would just be nice to be trusted at my word, rather than having someone act incredulous that America could have spit out someone with a brain. There are lots of us here.

Lisa

 

[KenHigg]

.... I'm tired of hearing about how evil America is. I'm not happy with the President, and I didn't vote for him. But I am not an evil person, and I don't sue everyone I see, and I don't kill people in foreign countries, and I don't condone that behavior. Unfortunately, our media displays all of our imperfections loudly across the airwaves, and manyof us get a bad rep as a result. So stop putting words in my mouth, and aligning me with the ideals of my government. If I say I don't believe something, it would just be nice to be trusted at my word, rather than having someone act incredulous that America could have spit out someone with a brain. There are lots of us here.

Lisa

Go Lisa, Go Lisa...

 

[ColinEssex]

I was actually responding to Rich, with his quote about the "American sue-all culture", as if that idea originated in the US,

You didn't say you were responding to Rich. Where do you think the sue-all culture came from?
I posted that I claimed compensation on 2 occasions and you said

It would seem that even if our "sue-all" culture rubbed off on the UK, there are people in the UK who think it's a decent enough idea to put to use. So not all of your inhabitants are virtuous, polite, and without shame - they are actually somewhat opportunistic

That was posted 2 posts after I said I claimed compensation - what was I supposed to think? My interpretation is that you think people that sue for compensation are opportunistic / shameless and impolite and as it was 2 posts after mine, it had to be levelled at me.

Only us shameless Americans, out for a buck.

and there's plenty of evidence of that - hot coffee and McDonalds ring a bell?

I'm tired of hearing about how evil America is. . . . . . .
But I am not an evil person, and I don't sue everyone I see, and I don't kill people in foreign countries, and I don't condone that behavior.

who said you did?

Unfortunately, our media displays all of our imperfections loudly across the airwaves,

Its on our TV and in our papers every day as well as the rest of the world I expect.

So stop putting words in my mouth,

I didn't

Col

 

[Kraj]

and there's plenty of evidence of that - hot coffee and McDonalds ring a bell?

Yes, it does. In fact, I hear it every time someone likes to blather about out-of-control lawsuits, and the vast majority of the time the person who brings it up knows next to nothing about the facts of the case.

It sound to me like your situation is exactly the reason lawsuits exist. At this point, I'm just curious (and this was the point of my smarmy comment earlier) if at any point during the process of your own litigation that it occurred to you the vast majority of cases in the U.S. are similar to you own, and the outrageous ones you hear about are really just a tiny slice that gets all the attention?

 

[KenHigg]

...are really just a tiny slice that gets all the attention?

Happens a lot - We should call this the forum debate syndrome..

Or STATA (Slice That gets All The Attention)

 

[ColinEssex]

At this point, I'm just curious (and this was the point of my smarmy comment earlier) if at any point during the process of your own litigation that it occurred to you the vast majority of cases in the U.S. are similar to you own,

Why on earth should I think of the USA? As much as you like to think you are the greatest country in the world, we don't all go round thinking about you. We get enough of the USA shoved down our throats on the news every night thank you.

But, now you mention it, I bet if I had the same claim in the USA, the payout would be massive and not a couple of thousand like it is here.

Col

 

[Bodisathva]

wonk, wonk, wonk...

you're starting to sound like Charlie Brown's teacher...