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In this video clip, a person identifies as a woman and expects to be treated as such.


The issue raised is that, as has happened in other cases, someone who was born male could enter a women’s event—say swimming—win, and take the prize.

In the clip, you can see the individual reacting to Ben in a way that many would interpret as a typically male response, despite identifying otherwise.

This raises broader questions: Should individuals who identify differently be allowed to compete in women’s sports? Should they have access to spaces like changing rooms alongside women and girls? These are the debates that continue to spark controversy.
 
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Babylon Bee had a very makes-its-point type of meme the other day

"Motorcyclist identifies as cyclist"
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To anyone who has swallowed the liberal narrative that insinuates conservatives "hate" transgender people, don't believe it - it's not true.

I have full respect for anyone with any type of mental disorder, be it anything whether a little weird or not, ranging from paraphilic disorders to gender confusion.

The point isn't hate, it's practical. If you're a man who wants or believes himself to be a woman, I have plenty of compassion for people like that (as I've had psych disorders myself!) But don't demand that everyone enable and reinforce the delusion - and obviously if you're a man, you shouldn't be competing against women, as that's unfair and just makes no sense.

I've had my own share of mental issues, as most people (who are being honest), have as well. But when I went to the counselor or even a psychiatrist about it, they didn't enable and reinforce it, they didn't tell me to go buy a t-shirt that says "I'm depressed and feel hopeless", they gently told me that wasn't true (I did have hope, and my confusion was confusion, not reality), and then helped me cope with what we both admitted to each other was a problem - we didn't agree to pretend it was perfectly normal, which wouldn't have helped me at all.

I went to the doctor admitting I had a problem and wanting OUT of it, and/or to help cope with the obvious distress that it could be expected to continue bringing me as long as I wallowed in it or chose to embrace it - I didn't embrace it nor demand that the doctor and everyone I came across in my everyday life reinforce and enable the delusion.

But that's the problem with the world we live in. You can't help yourself if you don't admit there's a problem. And as long as we live in a society where we are told up is down, right is wrong, and backwards is forwards, well I'm fine discussing things with people open-minded, but let's all come to the table from a place of Truth, shall we? Not my truth or your truth, just The Truth please........Thanks
 
When I was in highschool, girl's and women's sports were practically non existent. Now we've lost most of what we gained.
 
I have full respect for anyone with any type of mental disorder,

For many years, homosexuality was deemed to be a disorder. However, in 1973 - many years before the 1990s research that proved the existence of male and female brain configurations (that did NOT have to match body configurations) - the American Psychiatric Association revoked all references to "disorder" in their discussion of homosexuality in the DSM - Diagnostic and Statistics Manual of Mental Disorders. If you want a copy, here is a link to DSM 5 so you will be certain of the document to which I refer.


In essence, psychiatrists no longer consider homosexuality as a pathological behavior and don't refer to it as a disorder - though it is possible to have a disorder related to or caused by being a homosexual in a non-accepting situation.
 
If women go banging on about equality, why don't female tennis players play five sets like men's tennis? Or, why don't women hold doors open and let men go first? Or why don't women put the bins out? Or, why don't women stay home and look after the kids, maybe they wouldn't smash up Congress if mothers were more efficient.
Ah yes, they only like equality when it suits them.
Col
 
We've got any number of freak shows with men being women on UK TV. I think they are mentally disturbed or just attention seekers. Imagine if one of these freaks came for a job interview, no way would i employ a poof. A bloke should be a bloke and a woman should be a woman. Jesus, we even have a TV advert showing two men snogging, I felt sick seeing that. (Snogging = kissing passionately)
BTW, I like steak bakes, sainsbury do two for around £1.20.
Col
 
Particularly awesome if you think about the current flap over Bud Light and their trans spokesperson who has nearly tanked the brand. So why would a trans person NOT have a Bud in hand. (Yes, there WAS a double entendre in that statement!) But then again, the current flap means those who can handle it will have all the Bud Light they want. They won't make money from me, though, because I stopped drinking beer years ago. Goes in yellow, odorous, and foamy; comes out yellow, odorous, and foamy. I got tired of being the middle-man. But in the spirit of honesty, now that my liver is less happy with me, I don't drink anything alcoholic any more.
 
Speaking as a lesbian trapped in a man's body, I'd never presume to compete in women's sports. :love:
 
And will someone please tell them they are not being "excluded"? You can still play in the sport of the gender you actually are, cross dressing aside, kind of like you always have been able to.
 
With all this trans stuff, I don't see how drag artists appear to be acceptable.
The main object of the exercise seems to be to take the micky out of women. In general they claim to be comedians but the tendency is sarcasm and to ridicule. Many women don't think they are at all amusing, or acceptable. The tart stereotype appears to be the most prevalent.

Just how different are they from the blacking-up entertainers that were thought to be OK back in the last century? Then we had the Black & White Minstrels promoted and shown on the BBC in the UK. Something I don't recall the BBC apologising for. Drag seems to be an attempt to entertain using the exact same attitudes and excuses but against women.
 
With all this trans stuff, I don't see how drag artists appear to be acceptable.
The main object of the exercise seems to be to take the micky out of women. In general they claim to be comedians but the tendency is sarcasm and to ridicule. Many women don't think they are at all amusing, or acceptable. The tart stereotype appears to be the most prevalent.

Just how different are they from the blacking-up entertainers that were thought to be OK back in the last century? Then we had the Black & White Minstrels promoted and shown on the BBC in the UK. Something I don't recall the BBC apologising for. Drag seems to be an attempt to entertain using the exact same attitudes and excuses but against women.

That's a very insightful and informative post.

Similar to newest fad of men competing against women, suddenly women's rights have taken a backseat again.

And this is just one more out of dozens of evidentiary pieces of the puzzle to why I think most well informed and thoughtful people see it for the FAD it is.

Like all FADS, it takes the front attention for the moment .... for the moment. Unfortunately the consequences of enabling people's confusion during adolescence is NOT momentary.
 
Speaking as a skinny person trapped in a fat man's body, I would just like some clothes off-the-rack that fit and didn't need alterations.

It's annoying to me that Sam's Club has some clothing, which ordinarily would be just my thing - I'm very much the type of person that will buy clothes from places like that, if I see something functional and cheap.

But they only go up to size 40 in the shorts/pants. At the moment I wear 42.

Hey, I love the diversity of Arizona with it's 50% hispanic population, but please don't forget about the rest of us who aren't all 5 feet and 110 pounds!
 
women's rights have taken a backseat again.

An article passed by my feed the other day. The gist of the headline was "in the last whatever period of time there has been a large increase in anti-LGB... legislation proposed or passed". It had a very "we're being discriminated against" feel to it. Digging deeper though, the legislation was not "anti" them so much as protecting somebody else. An example was legislation preventing former males from competing in female events. In my view that's not discriminating against them, it's protecting women's rights.
 
An article passed by my feed the other day. The gist of the headline was "in the last whatever period of time there has been a large increase in anti-LGB... legislation proposed or passed". It had a very "we're being discriminated against" feel to it. Digging deeper though, the legislation was not "anti" them so much as protecting somebody else. An example was legislation preventing former males from competing in female events. In my view that's not discriminating against them, it's protecting women's rights.

Totally agreed. It's not anti anything. It's just saying men do men's sports. Women do women sports. So simple!
 

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