Attack on Israel

This is exactly the point I am making! Two wrongs don't make a right. Israel exacted vengeful disproportionate genocide of all Palestinians
So fighting back is "vengeful disproportionate genocide"? What percentage of the Jewish population were killed or taken hostage on Oct 7th. Go on, I dare you to find the number. Implying that the Israeli's not fight back is letting your antisemitism show:(
 
I think what some people mean is that the retribution needs to be proportional once the payback is sufficient, it should be scaled back until the next event, which will surely happen.
 
whatever they did, it was horribly and awfully disproportionate and totally wrong.
I guess you didn't see the pictures of what Hamas and the Palestinian citizens did. You need to put your mother, wife, and daughter into those pictures since you think the Oct 7th attack that targeted innocent civilians at a music festival was not genocide.

You really need to find some news source other than the blatantly antisemitic New York Times because they and Hamas have really suckered some of you. You won't even believe your lyin' eyes.
Where has the UN been?
They proved their antisemitism on the day of Israel's birth in 1948.
The UN, as supposed peacekeepers, should have disarmed Hamas and Hezbollah. They didn't. That means that the supposed peacekeepers allowed terrorists to arm themselves to endlessly attack Israel.
They also failed to take action against Russia when it invaded Ukraine, twice!
 
I think what some people mean is that the retribution needs to be proportional once the payback is sufficient, it should be scaled back until the next event, which will surely happen.
No, they mean they side with Hamas and think the Jews should just roll over and die so the world can be rid of them as the Palestinians want. The Palestinians have made their position crystal clear over the years - the only good Jew is a dead Jew and so they shoot rockets targeting civilians into Israel on a daily basis. But that is not genocide because the "good" guys are doing it.

We can tell that this is their position because they never suggest that the Palestinians could stop the war cold by simply stopping the bombing and giving back the hostages. They will claim to not be antisemitic but when you think the guys with the charter that promises to kill all the jews is on the side of righteousness, that claim is transparent.
 
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So fighting back is "vengeful disproportionate genocide"? What percentage of the Jewish population were killed or taken hostage on Oct 7th.
Very small compared to the many thousands of Palestinian men, women, and children who had nothing to do with Hamas. Israel has proven to be no better than the Nazi's were with the Holocaust. The Israeli government is guilty of crimes against humanity, and if the Muslims invade Israel, the United States is not going to help Israel.
 
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Very small compared to the many thousands of Palestinian men, women, and children who had nothing to do with Hamas.
They voted for them along with Hamas' kill all the Jews constitution and they never tried to leave and they never told the Israelis where the hostages were being hidden because that would have stopped the fighting. Israel, could have turned Gaza to glass if they wanted retribution. They can do it today. Their military is certainly powerful enough. Israel has been way too nice. The major reason is they don't want to be responsible for killing the hostages but they also try very hard to not kill civilians despite the fact that Hamas targets Israeli civilians (quite a difference in attitude that you simply cannot grasp). The fact that Hamas uses the civilians as human shields presents a no win situation to Israel. Do they fight back and potentially kill civilians? Why do you people not care that Hamas shoots civilians who try to escape? For a long time after Israel pulled out of Gaza, the borders were open and anyone who wanted to leave could have. Now the Palestinians themselves are hostages. They are also not welcomed in any Arab country as refugees. Why is that? Why won't Egypt or Jordan or Syria or Lebanon, etc take ANY Palestinian refugees? Why did Kuwait and other Arab countries expel all the Palestinian refugees they took in after the last war?
 
Very small compared to the many thousands of Palestinian men, women, and children who had nothing to do with Hamas.
Why aren't these many thousand Palestinians protesting for peace? Israelis have been out in the streets protesting for an end to the conflict. So where are the Palestinians who want peace? It appears that there are none. The simple fact is that the Palestinians support the genocidal war against Israel. The Palestinians are purposely and willfully sacrificing woman and children for the propaganda value.

And as previously noted, Islamic countries are not accepting Palestinian refugees for two reason: 1) The Palestinians would be destabilizing to the host country and 2) here is a lot of propaganda value to keep suffering Palestinians in Gaza. The Islamic world is being super Machiavellian in their attempt to turn world opinion against Israel.

Also, why is your concern limited to the Israeli response to Palestinian genocidal aggression. The new Syrian government has evidently initiated ethnic cleansing in Syria with attacks on Christians and Druze, yet the world ignores this travesty. Then there are the Turkish, Iraqi, and Iranian ethnic cleansing of Kurds. The Iraqis have attempted ethnic cleansing of the Yezidis. The Chinese are practicing ethnic cleansing of Uyghurs. Yet it appears that you are only concerned about Palestinians who keep attacking Israel. Seems that your priorities are misplaced.

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As a sad aside: Where has the UN been? The UN, as supposed peacekeepers, should have disarmed Hamas and Hezbollah. They didn't. That means that the supposed peacekeepers allowed terrorists to arm themselves to endlessly attack Israel.
that is a good question. the peacekeepers should have disarmed Hamas and Hezbollah.
 
Why aren't these many thousand Palestinians protesting for peace? Israelis have been out in the streets protesting for an end to the conflict. So where are the Palestinians who want peace? It appears that there are none
Because many of them have already been killed by Israel, and the remaining few are hostages of Hamas. The majority of Israeli citizens have been protesting the mass genocide of Palestinians from the very beginning, and Dictator Netanyahu refuses to de escalate the situation.
 
But I didn't say it wasn't genocide. So we respond to genocide with genocide?
When did fighting back become genocide? Why do you want the Jews to just lay down and die? By your logic, Israel can't fight back because Hamas surrounds itself with civilians and if the Israelis fight back they might kill "innocents". So, you want the Israelis to to just let Hamas bomb schools and playgrounds and other soft civilian targets on a daily basis but they are not allowed to fight back? Why do you want the Jews to just die? Why do you not lobby to have the Palestinians STOP bombing civilian targets and let the Jews fight back? Why is it that you think that fighting back is genocide? Is that what the antisemitic NYT is telling people these days? Are you not aware that the Jews could rid the earth of the terrorists without breaking a sweat? That you might call genocide. It is the Muslims who are committing genocide, not the Jews. I don't understand why you are confused. I won't list all the places previously mentioned where the Muslims are deliberately committing genocide that you don't seem to care about. I guess Christians and Kurds and all the others are simply not important to you. You only support terrorists who cloak themselves in civilians so you can blame the Jews. Pretty warped.
 
Because many of them have already been killed by Israel, and the remaining few are hostages of Hamas.
Where do you get your news? At least you are correct about Hamas keeping the Palestinians hostage to use as human shields. That's how terrorists work. And you think the Jews are the bad guys because they can't avoid killing the human shields if they want to fight back to stop Hamas from bombing their children's playgrounds. Makes sense to me if you are in favor of killing Jews.
 

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