A Father’s Bragging Rights.

jsanders said:
So what are some of ya’lls ideas on raising kids to be well adjusted and respectful?

Well, I'm no expert since I'm just on my first and she's only 2 1/2 (like I mentioned earlier), but I would imagine it's an ongoing process until they leave the nest. I have to say though, that we took Emily to just a few houses in our neighborhood to go trick-or-treating on Halloween and she said thank you at every door when they gave her candy. I was proud of her. :) A couple of people said something about it also which would indicate that not many of the kids did that. :(
 
:rolleyes: Well holy freakin' cow. I can see nothing has changed. This was a sweet and enduring thread, and it has gone to hades and back...
 
selenau837 said:
:rolleyes: Well holy freakin' cow. I can see nothing has changed. This was a sweet and enduring thread, and it has gone to hades and back...
Are you sure it made it back? :p
 
jsanders said:
So what are some of ya’lls ideas on raising kids to be well adjusted and respectful?

Teach them right from wrong. This starts very early

Discipline when they are out of line. Confiscate favourite toy for a week, Sit on a chair for 2 minutes with nothing to play with. Doesn't have to be corporal... but there are occassion when a whack on the legs is appropriate.

Misdeamour and ounishment must follow in quick succession

Only had to ground my lad once. It was for a week and there was no going back. I said a week and it was a week. Always carry out what you say you will do. No compromise.

Always do what you say you will do. Without fail ever

No Bribes

When I was a youngster (long time ago) I thought it was unfair that my parents would not buy me something if I did well at school say.

But my Dad said. If you have done your best and not made the grade I cannot buy you a present because you have not succeeded.

So the moral. If they have done their best then praise that regardless of the outcome. If they have not done their best then tell them they could have done better again regardless of result.

Teach respect for others opinion. They have rights regardless of who they are as well.

Worked for my children.

They say even now that if Dad says something will happen then it does, reverse also true

Len
 
We are very similar Len.

I also gave my daughter a very low allowance, and gave here bonuses for straight A report cards. And a smaller one for more A s then Bs . I don’t know if they influenced her getting better grades but they made her happy. And I considered it real world training. Hard work is rewarded in our society.

As apposed to some parents that think their kids can do no wrong. Which is the opposite of what society will demand.
 
Have you seen it? There's a famous scene that reminds me of you!

I'm very disappointed you didn't respond Rich - the ice pick - Cool, sharp and steely.
 
Adeptus said:
Are you sure it made it back? :p

It doesn't appear to have made it back...Such is life in the Forum...:eek:
 
jsanders said:
So what are some of ya’lls ideas on raising kids to be well adjusted and respectful?

Like MrsGorrilla, my children are still young and so the jury is still out on my parenting skills. However, like her, I have been immensely gratified by the politeness shown by the children, with unforced 'Please' & 'Thank yous' etc. This is mostly down to passive modeling which is why we also strive to avoid cursing in front of them.

While my children are very young, we are trying to avoid spending time with children who have unpleasant dispositions, i.e. rude or tantrum prone, aggressive etc as we see this form of modeling being repeated by ours. Sometimes it is striking, as though there were professional impersonators. This is sometimes difficult as the children belong to friends, but your first responsibility is to your own.

Mistakes we see others making is one parent undermining the other. This seems fatal to any sense of boundaries or discipline in a child's life. Pull together, not apart.

A particular failing of my own father was inconsistency and an almost arbitrary regime of punishment - you could be punished for a sibling failing to carry out some chore or other and, similarly, you could go unpunished for fairly large omissions of duty. The result was a lottery where you did what you wanted and took the occasional, almost irrelevant, punishment. Having recognized this as an adult, I am trying to be far more rational and consistent in what is allowed and what will happen if the rules are broken.

Although there are very few rules in my house, as yet - ha!, it seems that firm & fair and consistent make for a happy household with very few of the tedious negotiations or arguments about something the child simply must do, such as go to bed now etc.

Finally, to get back to the happy side of parenting that this thread is about, I have to say, it was a complete surprise how much I am enjoying being a father. Late starter at 42, I wish I had done it years ago, although my life wasn't as settled in earlier times and I can see how it would have been much more stressful to have children in my twenties when your financial options are more restricted, at least mine were.

To close on a high note, my youngest picked up a couple of different phrases and concatenated them together. Now when I walk in the door after work the children look round, see me and all charge over for hugs and kisses screaming "Daddy, you're back to normal". It has been going on for about 3 weeks and I still laugh at it every day.
 
I can't believe that this thread is as long as it is, and I haven't posted anything yet. Well, not surprising - haven't been out here lately.

I have an incredible 15month old who is just the best baby ever. She doesn't whine (too much yet) or cry for no reason (except when she is sleepy), and she is just so much fun to be around. She doesn't have too many understandable words, but she sure does understand what I say.

This Saturday, it seemed that she was starting to get tired around noon, so I asked her, "Do you want to take a nap?" She nodded her head, in this unbelievably exaggerated style, and walked to the baby gate that goes back to her room. I couldn't believe it!! First, that she understood what I said, second that she nodded (!), and thrid, that she actually wanted to take a nap!!

I am another late starter (42) and I don't think I would have had the patience that I have now if I had had her earlier in my life. She is just a wonder to me. It is fascinating to see what she picks up - facial expressions, mechanical workings, all sorts of things - and it reminds me to see the wonder in the world.

Here's another picture, in case you haven't had enough of her from my avatar...

Lisa
 

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jsanders said:
I also gave my daughter a very low allowance, and gave here bonuses for straight A report cards. And a smaller one for more A s then Bs .
Surely this conditions the child to learn that bribery and corruption is the way to get people to do things and the way to get what you want in life?

If she needs further proof, then just look at the US government.:rolleyes:

Col
 
ColinEssex said:
Surely this conditions the child to learn that bribery and corruption is the way to get people to do things and the way to get what you want in life?

Col

or you could say that it teaches the child that
you never get something for nothing
hard work has its rewards

Brian
 
lmnop7854 said:
I can't believe that this thread is as long as it is, and I haven't posted anything yet. Well, not surprising - haven't been out here lately.

I have an incredible 15month old who is just the best baby ever. She doesn't whine (too much yet) or cry for no reason (except when she is sleepy), and she is just so much fun to be around. She doesn't have too many understandable words, but she sure does understand what I say.

This Saturday, it seemed that she was starting to get tired around noon, so I asked her, "Do you want to take a nap?" She nodded her head, in this unbelievably exaggerated style, and walked to the baby gate that goes back to her room. I couldn't believe it!! First, that she understood what I said, second that she nodded (!), and thrid, that she actually wanted to take a nap!!

I am another late starter (42) and I don't think I would have had the patience that I have now if I had had her earlier in my life. She is just a wonder to me. It is fascinating to see what she picks up - facial expressions, mechanical workings, all sorts of things - and it reminds me to see the wonder in the world.

Here's another picture, in case you haven't had enough of her from my avatar...

Lisa

They are little wonders - Nice coveralls ;)
 
ColinEssex said:
we used to have a sofa like that

Col

Yeah, it is about 20 years old. But why get new stuff when she will most assuredly put holes in it, paint and crayon on it, and jump all over it?
 
KenHigg said:
They are little wonders - Nice coveralls ;)

I have a tendency to dress her like a boy. She has a blue down coat for the winter, and with a hat on, everyone tells me how cute "he" is. She also wears work boots. I just can't see putting her in a dress and tights when it is freezing out, and Mommy has pants and sweaters on. So she dresses like Mommy, and will hopefully be into sports and music.

I'm not conditioning her, though.

Lisa
 
Enough with the political comments in a non-political forum and especially a non-political thread. Please stop.
 
lmnop7854 said:
I have a tendency to dress her like a boy. She has a blue down coat for the winter, and with a hat on, everyone tells me how cute "he" is. She also wears work boots. I just can't see putting her in a dress and tights when it is freezing out, and Mommy has pants and sweaters on. So she dresses like Mommy, and will hopefully be into sports and music.

Heh, I dress Emily in sweats a lot when it's cold, or jeans and sweaters or long-sleeve shirts. I agree with you, although if I have her in something non-pink (or sometimes even when she is wearing pink) people will mistake her for a "he". She also has a pair of hiking/work type boots that she loves to wear. If I tell her to go to her room and get her tennis shoes, she'll almost certainly come out with her boots wanting to wear them instead.
 

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