A textbook definition of cowardice

[Matty]

He was really good because he was murdered?

 

[jsanders]

But the damage was done after just one year and isn't it odd that Americans don't trust their politicians and have to limit their term of office?

Unbelievable.

Are there no limits to which your demented mind will twist the facts?

 

[Rich]

Unbelievable.

Are there no limits to which your demented mind will twist the facts?

The facts are that your President is not allowed to serve more than two terms have I missed something that even you can't understand?

 

[Rich]

He was really good because he was murdered?

seen in a more sympathetic light, I suspect

 

[jsanders]

The facts are that your President is not allowed to serve more than two terms have I missed something that even you can't understand?

George Washington and the rest of the Founding Fathers having been persecuted and taxed without representation for many years, by your fathers, were reluctant to let anyone have control over the country for more than eight.

After all your enlightened Euro thinking brought us WWI, WWII, and the Soviet Union. I guess there is something to throwing down the monarchs after all.

 

[Rich]

George Washington and the rest of the Founding Fathers having been persecuted and taxed without representation for many years, by your fathers, were reluctant to let anyone have control over the country for more than eight.

.

Like I said, you don't trust your politicians

After all your enlightened Euro thinking brought us WWI, WWII, and the Soviet Union. I guess there is something to throwing down the monarchs after all.

and your enlightened thinking brought you a civil war where Americans slaughtered Americands by the thousand and where the bitterness extends to this day and then of course there's 'Nam, the Phillipines, Texas, Iran, Iraq, Afghanistan, Cuba etc. etc

 

[jsanders]

Like I said, you don't trust your politicians


and your enlightened thinking brought you a civil war where Americans slaughtered Americands by the thousand and where the bitterness extends to this day and then of course there's 'Nam, the Phillipines, Texas, Iran, Iraq, Afghanistan, Cuba etc. etc

You keep bringing up Texas. Texas won it independence from Mexico.

The Philippians? Didn't we liberate them from the Japanese?

Ah yes, the bitterness from the civil war, where we kept the Union from falling apart. Right.

Iran took some hostages from us a few years ago, other than that we haven’t had to kill any of them yet.

Afghanistan…well yes, we did arm them against the soviets, kind of like us keeping you Brits from speaking Russian, aye comrade?

Vietnam. Not much to say there. We should have let the French fight that one.

Cuba, I don’t think that it is in the league with even the smallest aerial bombardment from the 2nd world war or the gas from the first, but hey, a mouse and an elephant are both gray.

And last Iraq. Well I guess we all have our “Bay of Pigs”

 

[Rich]

The Philippians? Didn't we liberate them from the Japanese?

You stole them from the Spanish first

Iran took some hostages from us a few years ago, other than that we haven’t had to kill any of them yet.

You installed a puppet tihere prior to that to do your killing for you

Afghanistan…well yes, we did arm them against the soviets, kind of like us keeping you Brits from speaking Russian, aye comrade?

Like you kept us from speaking German

Vietnam. Not much to say there. We should have let the French fight that one.

The French had already pulled out, had you kept your nose out there would have been just a quick civil war

Vietnam. Not much to say there. We should have let the French fight that one.

Cuba, I don’t think that it is in the league with even the smallest aerial bombardment from the 2nd world war or the gas from the first,

that's because Kennedy held back LeMay

And last Iraq. Well I guess we all have our “Bay of Pigs

Bay of Pigs was a minor incident, unlike Iraq

 

[GMLWORLDCHAMP!]

Am I the only one who has difficulty following GML's posts?

Brian

Sorry Brian...just trying to followup on the thread and the endless irreverance from Rich?$?!#

I'll take a little more time to followup so my comments can at least be followed better, even if they are still ignored or not read completely...we can't all be functional can we?...

 

[GMLWORLDCHAMP!]

GML - I find it amazing that in several threads you seem to blame the current situation on "the past" -

All that shows (if its true) is that in 230 years, Americans have not changed anything and insist that the current faults (created by themselves) can be blamed on someone else.

Actually, that seems to fit with GWB's style of getting others to fight your wars for you - like arming the Taliban against the Ruskies and arming Israel to fight Palestinians, that way you don't get the blame for it.

Col

I was just trying to bring some other readers up to speed but as I've quickly learned in my return here, some people just simply can't be helped.

You have also left many...many thoughts that bring back ancient ideals and excuse ridden stances that are just as old in their thinking and philosophies as the problems you point to as being "our" problems today.

*** Your GWB comment: I'm embarrassed for you! Relax, in about five weeks, you can continue to hate us all when we collectively elect someone else you can point your fingers at and mock but the U.S. will keep rolling because of that crazy thing I tried to explain to Rich; something very "human" in nature...Again, I'm glad you have no say in those matters or we'd all have our mickey's ripped out!#?$?!#...see, I can adjust to anything to make someone else feel comfortable, or at least try!

You guys still insist that anything that happens over here was at the consent and approval of EVERYONE here and I would have thought you were both far more intelligent than that but obviously, I was wrong!

What is it about that "blanket" approach of yours and those like you that is so overwhelmingly comfortable? I think it is simply the fact that it IS comfortable because expressing even a few more REALISTIC thoughts would require some more thought and some real thinking and you're just not interested in offering that effort or too lazy...fair enough...it takes all kinds...God Bless...

 

[GMLWORLDCHAMP!]

You can do better than that!?#!?$#!?#

I think GML's username explains it quite well - "world champ"? that'll be the same world as in "world series" no doubt

Col

Now come on, I'd expect a real stance from you at least. Anyone else, not worth mentioning here...

So, please tell us all what the problem is with, what I'm 101% sure you and your brood would refer to as being, our professional athletics..

It takes money and a lot of it on a scale that I'm sure would be attacked by you so get past that...

It takes an amazing committment that other nations simply aren't interested in investing the time and again, money so get past that,

It takes a genuine fan base that has proven loyalty in many other markets that again is lacking in most nations to offer competitive teams so get past that,

What's left, in essence, the U.S. and a few nations that have the guts to compete and the support of their people to persist...so, what's your point?

 

[GMLWORLDCHAMP!]

Unbelievable.

Are there no limits to which your demented mind will twist the facts?

No kidding! Our system, handed down from merry old England herself... but I know that's a sore spot for these guys so, anyway, it far outweighs having a puppet kingdom where a "royal" family makes absolutely no rules, no laws, pay no taxes, and that their people actually PAY to have sit on a throne...forever...as much respect as I have for the English people and their rich history, especially at the time when their kings and queens actually made decisions, it's views shared by these guys that makes things so difficult because they deny their own history...

Way to go jsanders!

 

[GMLWORLDCHAMP!]

Come on Rich...take off those darn sunglasses already!?#

Like I said, you don't trust your politicians

and your enlightened thinking brought you a civil war where Americans slaughtered Americands by the thousand and where the bitterness extends to this day and then of course there's 'Nam, the Phillipines, Texas, Iran, Iraq, Afghanistan, Cuba etc. etc

And you guys do trust your politicians?...come on, are we to believe that "human" nature to lie, cheat, and steal doesn't exist over there because YOU say so?

I'd go back to history but what the hell for???

So England's tyrannical oppression over Scotland and Wales for a thousand plus years...and France, and Spain, and Denmark, and Sweden, and Norway, and so on has no bearing at all on your ridiculous opinion over the U.S. who haven't oppressed anywhere near as many people in their history, even going back to the Neolithic Age!?$#?$! COME ON YOU GUYS...

 

[GMLWORLDCHAMP!]

Stop the presses...!#?$!

You stole them from the Spanish first

You installed a puppet tihere prior to that to do your killing for you

Like you kept us from speaking German

The French had already pulled out, had you kept your nose out there would have been just a quick civil war

that's because Kennedy held back LeMay

Bay of Pigs was a minor incident, unlike Iraq

Colin made it a very high point to try to remind me that my going back in history was pointless.

...Even though that's where the answers truly exist but anyway...

Now you return as our "History teacher"...you and Colin should start your own online History site and call it, naturally, "History for DUMMIES!" ...

 

[Rich]

call it, naturally, "History for DUMMIES!" ...

You've misspelt Americans

 

[Rich]

No kidding! Our system, handed down from merry old England herself...

It's nothing like our system we're a democracy

but I know that's a sore spot for these guys so, anyway, it far outweighs having a puppet kingdom where a "royal" family makes absolutely no rules, no laws, pay no taxes,

Her Majesty The Queen (god bless her) does pay income tax and has an income of her own, she recieves money from the government to enable her to carry out her duties. Unlike American politicians she's beyond corruption

Way to go jsanders!:cool

He was supposed to be gone yonks ago

 

[ColinEssex]

So, please tell us all what the problem is with, what I'm 101% sure you and your brood would refer to as being, our professional athletics..

1) your maths is out by 1% obviously a product of US education, add on 1% and nobody will notice?

2) I never mentioned athletics

It takes money and a lot of it on a scale that I'm sure would be attacked by you so get past that...It takes an amazing committment that other nations simply aren't interested in investing the time and again, money so get past that,

But now that you have mentioned athletics, I agree that the performance enhancing drugs US athletes use must be fairly costly. Justin Gatlin obviously feels he is inferior without the aid of testosterone - now he has 8 years to think about it ref

It takes a genuine fan base that has proven loyalty in many other markets that again is lacking in most nations to offer competitive teams so get past that,

Nice that the "genuine fans" support people who cheat and lie. A bit like supporting your government leaders.

What's left, in essence, the U.S. and a few nations that have the guts to compete and the support of their people to persist...so, what's your point?

I'm unclear what you mean by "whats your point" I pointed out that your username indicated you are a "world champ" - I merely questioned which world you are referring to, the US world (of 2 countries USA and Canada) or the real world which contains reality

Col

 

[ColinEssex]

George Washington and the rest of the Founding Fathers having been persecuted and taxed without representation for many years, by your fathers, were reluctant to let anyone have control over the country for more than eight.

Jenny, why wasn't it made law until after Roosevelt?

After all your enlightened Euro thinking brought us WWI, WWII, and the Soviet Union. I guess there is something to throwing down the monarchs after all.

the USSR was not part of Europe.

Afghanistan…well yes, we did arm them against the soviets, kind of like us keeping you Brits from speaking Russian

Thats a good one - the USA thinking about others? Come on Jenny, get a grip son, the USA always has a hidden agenda - it was a good chance to pop at the USSR without actually fighting - just like you're doing in Israel now.

So England's tyrannical oppression over Scotland and Wales for a thousand plus years...and France, and Spain, and Denmark, and Sweden, and Norway,

Try to find a history book that focuses on something other than the USA - read about the invasions from the Gauls, the Vikings, the Normans, the Spanish, the Romans etc etc, then you can discuss it properly.

Colin made it a very high point to try to remind me that my going back in history was pointless.

I didn't say that - please read the posts properly if you are going to attempt a discussion - what I said was

All that shows (if its true) is that in 230 years, Americans have not changed anything and insist that the current faults (created by themselves) can be blamed on someone else.

Your references to the scrap of paper containing your rules is not cast in stone, you can't blame what you do today on others - which is what you elude to.

Col

 

[dan-cat]

1) your maths is out by 1% obviously a product of US education

I'd still like to know how a product of UK education could describe the protagonists of the Vietnam war as thus:

JFK was really good but too popular which is why he had to be "eliminated". The others were a bit nondescript really. . . .Carter / LBJ etc.

Here's that chart again...

 

[jsanders]

the USSR was not part of Europe.

Col

They sure wanted to be, Oh i remember now, we kept that from happening.