Are you an atheist?

[nanscombe]

It could be somewhat difficult to reconcile the existence of God with the disbelief in the concept of gods.

 

[Galaxiom]

White Europeans were thought to be Gods when they descended from the sky's in silver birds. Same with the Spanish. We could be 180 degrees off in our belief in God(s).

The people of the Pacific Islands thought James Cook was a god. Unfortunately for Cook those in Hawaii decided to test their hypothesis with a spear on his last visit.

If he lived then he was a god. If he died then he wasn't and it was no real loss.

 

[Bladerunner]

"gave his accounting of the actual creation in writing to Moses back about 3-4000 years ago" ..

One at a time Gentlemen: lol

One might ask what was God doing for the rest of the 4,500,000,000 years (age of the earth) or 13,800,000,000 years (age of the universe)?

Creating?

ETA:
Maybe some advanced alien race did make the Earth out of a cloud of floating gas and debris, by using some process of terraforming, that still wouldn't make them gods.

Terra-forming for one planet is a lot of difference in terra-forming billions of planets, stars, etc. in billions of Galaxies. They may have that ability but all that shows is that they are older than we are.

 

[Bladerunner]

It could be somewhat difficult to reconcile the existence of God with the disbelief in the concept of gods.

"Concept of God...s" We are only talking about one God and of course the son of both man and God.

 

[Bladerunner]

Okay so here is my question. hypothetically speaking, if you could question an alien do you think he would know who Jesus is? And if they said after millions of years looking they found no evidence of God then what?

Why would they, They are not from here or human. Jesus was sent to the human race. Now the question is, would they have a Jesus of their own? Next time you see one, ask him/her or IT!

 

[Dick7Access]

One might ask what was God doing for the rest of the 4,500,000,000 years (age of the earth) or 13,800,000,000 years (age of the universe)?

who said the earth is 4,500,000,000 year?

 

[dan-cat]

For these people I pity, because they have the knowledge to seek out the truth yet hide the truth in meaningless words and phrases meant to destroy the very faith that could save their souls to eternal life.

That is the burden of your belief. That the millions who don't align with the creed you subscribe to face an interminably wretched fate. I pity those who have had this burden pressed upon them.

 

[Bladerunner]

That is the burden of your belief. That the millions who don't align with the creed you subscribe to face an interminably wretched fate. I pity those who have had this burden pressed upon them.

again Dan-Cat: would you welcome someone in your house knowing that they hate, loath, scuff at you, belittle you? Right now no-one knows that heaven is actually like or hell for that matter. All we have is the written word handed down from a being that created all things. You do not have to believe. In the end it will be between you and Jesus that is if you get the chance.

If you are alive when the 'end of days' begin, you will have a choice to take the mark or not. again it all boils down to your choice. I personally do not disparage anyone for sticking to their 'guns' so to speak. After all you are human, 95% of the same DNA runs through your blood as does mine.

p.s. I have found that most people who do not believe in the Christian faith either are ignorant of His word or are living a lifestyle that can not coexist with the written word.

They in most cases are very angry and many (not all) of those that are angry become activist with the purpose to force their will upon everyone else and of course destroy Christianity on the way.

Especially in the USA, activist groups are chipping away at the very foundation that made this country what it was just a few years ago. The center of this is the God issue and anything to do with the Christian Religion. (i.e a Cross on Public land).

In reality, if you do not believe it is 'no skin off my nose'. I and most Christians will treat you respect, tolerance and will offer you a seat in our house in hopes of getting to 'see the light'. If you are to be accepted in His house, the Burden of choice is on you.

 

[Dick7Access]

again Dan-Cat: would you welcome someone in your house knowing that they hate, loath, scuff at you, belittle you? Right now no-one knows that heaven is actually like or hell for that matter. All we have is the written word handed down from a being that created all things. You do not have to believe. In the end it will be between you and Jesus that is if you get the chance.

If you are alive when the 'end of days' begin, you will have a choice to take the mark or not. again it all boils down to your choice. I personally do not disparage anyone for sticking to their 'guns' so to speak. After all you are human, 95% of the same DNA runs through your blood as does mine.

p.s. I have found that most people who do not believe in the Christian faith either are ignorant of His word or are living a lifestyle that can not coexist with the written word.

They in most cases are very angry and many (not all) of those that are angry become activist with the purpose to force their will upon everyone else and of course destroy Christianity on the way.

Especially in the USA, activist groups are chipping away at the very foundation that made this country what it was just a few years ago. The center of this is the God issue and anything to do with the Christian Religion. (i.e a Cross on Public land).

In reality, if you do not believe it is 'no skin off my nose'. I and most Christians will treat you respect, tolerance and will offer you a seat in our house in hopes of getting to 'see the light'. If you are to be accepted in His house, the Burden of choice is on you.

well said!

 

[ColinEssex]

p.s. I have found that most people who do not believe in the Christian faith either are ignorant of His word or are living a lifestyle that can not coexist with the written word.

What is a lifestyle that doesn't coexist with the written word?

Col

 

[Bladerunner]

You would think the creator of the universe (God), the Holly Trinity would be universally known by higher beings though out our vast universe.

Maybe there a special limbo for non earthlings who are atheist. After all they could not be allowed to get off scot-free right?

HEY,,, you been talking to aliens???????????????????????? did not know this, You right, he should be know throughout the universe. Guess I was wrong. I will have to amend my assumptions based on this new knowledge that aliens know nothing of God or an omnicreator?

 

[Bladerunner]

What is a lifestyle that doesn't coexist with the written word?

Col

serial killers for one. Another accounts for the most numerous variant lifestyle of all (the Prostitute) ?

Ah, Colin,,,,,,, your baiting me aren't you, you ole geezer!////// lol

You are well aware of all the lifestyles that live outside of the ten commandments, written by the "finger of God" and the teachings of Jesus Christ. If not, I have a KJV bible, I will send you! Then you can read it for yourself.

 

[tehNellie]

Especially in the USA, activist groups are chipping away at the very foundation that made this country what it was just a few years ago.

I agree what you say here. The US constitution guarantees freedom of religion while also enshrining the separation of religion and state. That is amazing. "You" can believe whatever you want and the state can't dictate otherwise. That right was enshrined nearly 300 years ago.

The US needs to protect itself from militant Christians who'd deprive non Christians of their rights and seem especially keen on suppressing the rights of women and getting the constitution amended to reflect that. You should fight that with all your stockpiled guns because look at Isis, we created that.

 

[Bladerunner]

I agree what you say here. The US constitution guarantees freedom of religion while also enshrining the separation of religion and state. That is amazing. "You" can believe whatever you want and the state can't dictate otherwise. That right was enshrined nearly 300 years ago.

about a quarter over 200

The US needs to protect itself from militant Christians who'd deprive non Christians of their rights and seem especially keen on suppressing the rights of women and getting the constitution amended to reflect that.

Not really sure about militant Christians. There has always been a group of people for abortion and those against it. I think Roe vs Wade made this matter mute. However, lately the liberal left are not satisfied with having a 21 week time period place on the fetus. They are willing to kill the kid all the way up to prior to its birth and some even after its birth. This is called population control. They don't give a fig about the average woman or her rights. I guess your one of these that would kill a baby (fetus) even after the 21 week period is over.

You should fight that with all your stockpiled guns because look at Isis, we created that.[/QUOTE]

NO the liberal left created ISIS. A stable Iraq was handed over to the most leftest liberal president of all time.He pulled all troops out of Iraq knowing full well they were not strong enough at the time to stop any major threat from other countries or armies. Also keep in mind, ISIS is mostly Sunni Muslim and our president actually went to Muslim school. From what I know about Islam, you cannot quite. Rem. in Islam, women have no rights and her Christian values certainly did not count in any way. So, while you like to say I started it, I would have been perfectly content to leave a contingent of say 10,000 in Iraq until a later date. We did the same in Germany and Japan and look what happened.

 

[Brianwarnock]

What is a lifestyle that doesn't coexist with the written word?

Col

As Jesus is reported as saying
" love thine enemy" and "turn the other cheek"
that an itchy trigger finger, even if the chance to fire does not come along, would be one that failed the test.

Brian

 

[ColinEssex]

serial killers for one. Another accounts for the most numerous variant lifestyle of all (the Prostitute) ?

Ah, Colin,,,,,,, your baiting me aren't you, you ole geezer!////// lol

You are well aware of all the lifestyles that live outside of the ten commandments, written by the "finger of God" and the teachings of Jesus Christ. If not, I have a KJV bible, I will send you! Then you can read it for yourself.

I did have a lovely leather bound bible, i bought it after i was sucked in after seeing Billy Graham in the late 60's, but I burnt it after I joined a local church and was horrified at the hypocritical goings on, people having affairs, the treasurer siphoning off 10% or so of collection money. Then on Sundays you would think butter wouldn't melt - all smart, faking happy marriage, pretending to be friendly with each other. I hated it, stayed about a year, I had a word with the vicar about it but he denied anything was wrong.
So i burnt anything I had pertaining to church or religion.

Ten Commandments? Barely any churchgoer is completely within those rules. I know more "righteous" non believers than hypocritical religious Christian freaks trying to kid themselves they are in step with their outdated non existent god.

Col

 

[Bladerunner]

As Jesus is reported as saying
" love thine enemy" and "turn the other cheek"
that an itchy trigger finger, even if the chance to fire does not come along, would be one that failed the test.

Brian

Hi old friend: an itchy trigger finger only if my family or myself is in possible bodily harm. Otherwise, I am happy to turn the other cheek. I do to you guys all the time.lol.

 

[Bladerunner]

I did have a lovely leather bound bible, i bought it after i was sucked in after seeing Billy Graham in the late 60's, but I burnt it after I joined a local church and was horrified at the hypocritical goings on, people having affairs, the treasurer siphoning off 10% or so of collection money. Then on Sundays you would think butter wouldn't melt - all smart, faking happy marriage, pretending to be friendly with each other. I hated it, stayed about a year, I had a word with the vicar about it but he denied anything was wrong.
So i burnt anything I had pertaining to church or religion.

Colin, I thanked you because I now understand why you are down on the christian religion. you are right. There are many people in churches that are hypocritical. We have that here as well. I am content that they will have to answer for their ways here on earth. But this is not reason why you should denounce your savior. You see, I do not believe that you can (as Catholics do) do communion and be resolved of your sins and then do it all over again next weekend without having to answer for them (sins) in the end. I believe the Roman Catholic church is wrong here. Of course this is my opinion. In the end, if you have accepted Jesus Christ, you are expected to live the lifestyle that he has set forth. In other words being saved will get you to the pearly gates but you will still have to answer for your sins. Again this is my opinion.

Ten Commandments? Barely any churchgoer is completely within those rules. I know more "righteous" non believers than hypocritical religious Christian freaks trying to kid themselves they are in step with their outdated non existent god.

Colin remember just because your neighbor goes to church yet sins throughout the rest of the week does in no way dictate how you must act. You know the Ten Commandments, go by them, believe in Jesus and you will make it in the end regardless of what other people are doing. As I have always said, this is an individual quest. Only you can make the choice you know you have. Besides if all the churches are corrupted to some degree, I believe both Jesus and his Father can see through the smoke so to speak. Don't you?

 

[Brianwarnock]

I want to know what I am

being saved

from, ok I am sure that I have stolen the odd paper clip, exceeded the speed limit, but I have never knowingly hurt anybody,coveted their wife or ox, committed adultery etc, ok I'm a dull boring old fart but it would appear that my only "sin" is doubting a story that I cannot verify.

Brian

 

[Brianwarnock]

Oh, I keep hearing about this original sin, but why should I be punished for something I didn't do?


Brian