Are you an atheist? (13 Viewers)

Are you an atheist?

  • I am 100% atheist, no evidence could convince me there is a god

    Votes: 65 18.5%

  • I am an atheist, but if god appeared before me tomorrow I would change my mind

    Votes: 97 27.6%

  • I am an agnostic, I just don't know!

    Votes: 52 14.8%

  • I am not sure there is a god, but isn't it better to assume there is just in case?

    Votes: 11 3.1%

  • My god is the only god and he definitely exists.

    Votes: 126 35.9%
  • Total voters
    351
spikepl said:
@Libre

Thanks man. Will have to see what God has to say about The Flying Spaghetti Monster and especially Russel's Teapot (..." between the Earth and Mars there is a china teapot revolving about the sun in an elliptical orbit").
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His attitude about the FSM and Russel's Teapot are right in line with (if I might assume) ours.
He regularly smites ultra religious assholes like that clerk in Tennessee or Kansas or whatever who wouldn't issue marriage licenses to same-sex couples.
In fact, God is an atheist.
 
Spike, He'd probably tell you that He and the FSM are on great terms (I seem to recall Him reposting when someone was allowed to wear a colander in their driver's license photo).
 
Also, He regularly puts up 'God Loves Gays' billboards in ultra-conservative areas.
 
Here is a poem from Gothic Medievel times that is appropriate for the US and any other country that once trusted in God. It will also fit individuals.

You call me eternal, then do not seek me.
You call me fair, then do not love me.
You call me gracious, then do not trust me.
You call me just, then do not fear me.
You call me life, then do not choose me.
You call me light, then do not see me.
You call me Lord, then do not respect me.
You call me Master, then do not obey me.
You call me merciful, then do not thank me.
You call me mighty, the do not honor me.
You call me noble, then do not serve me.
You call me rich, then do not ask me.
You call me Savior, then do not praise me.
You call me shepherd, then do not follow me.
You call me the way, then do not walk with me.
You call me wise, then do not heed me.
You call me Son of God, then do not worship me.
When I abandon you, then do not blame me.

Have a good day!

Blade
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Bladerunner said:
Here is a poem from Gothic Medievel times that is appropriate for the US and any other country that once trusted in God. It will also fit individuals.

You call me eternal, then do not seek me.
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When I abandon you, then do not blame me.

Have a good day!

Blade
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You call me eternal, then do not seek me.
-I don't call you eternal.
You call me fair, then do not love me.
-Fair? Gimme a freakin break.
You call me gracious, then do not trust me.
-I don't trust spirits.
You call me just, then do not fear me.
-Just? Gimme a freakin break.
You call me life, then do not choose me.
-Freedom of choice is what I understand you supposedly gave us - uhhh, right?
You call me light, then do not see me.
-You don't show yourself and then ask why we don't see you?
You call me Lord, then do not respect me.
- I don't call you or anybody "Lord".
You call me Master, then do not obey me.
-I don't call you or anybody "Master".
You call me merciful, then do not thank me.
-Okay thank you, if you think you're merciful.
You call me mighty, the do not honor me.
-High and mighty is about right.
You call me noble, then do not serve me.
-Yeah, you're right about that - the service around here is terrible.
You call me rich, then do not ask me.
-Because When you ask the rich to share with you they usually tell you to f*ck off.
You call me Savior, then do not praise me.
-Oh, it's praise you want? Okay. You're a fine hypothetical diety, really.
You call me shepherd, then do not follow me.
-Allan Shepard was the first American in space. Could not follow without a space suit.
You call me the way, then do not walk with me.
-You wanna walk with me then walk with me. It would be nice if you just gave me a little nudge so I knew you were there.
You call me wise, then do not heed me.
-If you would talk I'd listen.
You call me Son of God, then do not worship me.
-The worship of abstract constructions is not high on my list.
When I abandon you, then do not blame me.
-I won't blame you if you won't blame me.
 
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QUOTE=Libre;1457586]You call me eternal, then do not seek me.
-I don't call you eternal.
You call me fair, then do not love me.
-Fair? Gimme a freakin break.
You call me gracious, then do not trust me.
-I don't trust spirits.
You call me just, then do not fear me.
-Just? Gimme a freakin break.
You call me life, then do not choose me.
-Freedom of choice is what I understand you supposedly gave us - uhhh, right?
You call me light, then do not see me.
-You don't show yourself and then ask why we don't see you?
You call me Lord, then do not respect me.
- I don't call you or anybody "Lord".
You call me Master, then do not obey me.
-I don't call you or anybody "Master".
You call me merciful, then do not thank me.
-Okay thank you, if you think you're merciful.
You call me mighty, the do not honor me.
-High and mighty is about right.
You call me noble, then do not serve me.
-Yeah, you're right about that - the service around here is terrible.
You call me rich, then do not ask me.
-Because When you ask the rich to share with you they usually tell you to f*ck off.
You call me Savior, then do not praise me.
-Oh, it's praise you want? Okay. You're a fine hypothetical diety, really.
You call me shepherd, then do not follow me.
-Allan Shepard was the first American in space. Could not follow without a space suit.
You call me the way, then do not walk with me.
-You wanna walk with me then walk with me. It would be nice if you just gave me a little nudge so I knew you were there.
You call me wise, then do not heed me.
-If you would talk I'd listen.
You call me Son of God, then do not worship me.
-The worship of abstract constructions is not high on my list.
When I abandon you, then do not blame me.
-I won't blame you if you won't blame me.
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I see you have chosen, Satan (Lucifer) will be happy.

Have a nice day

Blade
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Blade: from context, Spike probably meant "belong" as in "putting women in their place."

I skimmed through the article in the link, which works OK for me. Blade, were you trying to access the article from home or from work? Because office environments can put blocks on specific sites that would not apply from a home site.

If you were to read the article, you would see that is the usual religious bull-dinkey about the man being the lord and master of his household and the woman has to submit to her husband on demand, whether she likes it or not.

The article put out an interesting concept because it was trying to define "phobeo" as "revere" rather than "fear" - but if that is correct, I wasn't able to find the alternate definition on-line. When the articles say that Man must fear God, the author was trying to say that this was intended as "respectful fear" or "reverential deference" - and it went on about how women should hold their husbands in the same attitude as the attitude of men to God. Which of course implies that women are second-class beings who don't even have the right to directly fear God if they were married, because they must first fear their husbands. Of COURSE the modern apologists will try to soften the way that religion treats women because the women are getting wise enough to not put up with that kind of bull-dinkey.

The event in question happened long ago, perhaps before I was born. I know I don't recall when it actually happened, but the passage of the Equal-Rights amendment that decreed equal rights for women and men must have totally infuriated the religious whack-jobs of that time period. It meant that the religious view of how men could treat women was no longer quite so one-sided. But then of course, that pioneer of women's rights, Lorena Bobbit, demonstrated the way to use scissors when it became necessary to cut her bum of a husband down to size. Now THERE was a woman who correctly understood the word "fear."
 
I run across this article that really pertains to Europe and you Muslims friends.

There are about 13.1 million Jews left ( population growth at 0.2%). The Bible tells us first, that they turned away from Jesus a long time (almost 2000 yrs) ago. It also tells us the Anti-christ (pseudo christ) will claim 2/3 of those living for believing in him. A whole lot more than the number that died at Auschwitz! It is one of those prophecies have not been fulfilled. Yet, we know that out of those that have been fulfilled in the Bible, the percentage has been 100% so there is no doubt, it will be fulfilled on time.

You already have seen the beginning of the very hard times in Europe while America has yet to come to grips with it. From what I am told our Muslim Pres. is going to let in 10-100,000 of the refuges that you are now getting, so it won't be long before we know exactly what you are going and will be going through....How many women are part of this group?. How many Children? How many Male Children? How many men in their early twenties are in this group?....Do you think it might be a Trojan Horse?? How many of them are Islamic Terrorist! How many of these terrorist is too many?


“ALL EUROPEAN LIFE DIED IN AUSCHWITZ”
by Sebastian Vilar Rodrigez(*)

I walked down the street in Barcelona, and suddenly discovered a
terrible truth – Europe died in Auschwitz.

We killed six million Jews and replaced them with 20 million Muslims. In Auschwitz we burned a culture, thought, creativity, talent. We destroyed the chosen people, truly chosen, because they produced great and wonderful people who changed the world. The contribution of this people is felt in all areas of life: science, art, international trade, and above all, as the conscience of the world.

These are the people we burned. And under the pretense of tolerance, and because we wanted to prove to ourselves that we were cured of the disease of racism, we opened our gates to 20 million Muslims, who brought us stupidity and ignorance, religious extremism and lack of tolerance, crime and poverty due to an unwillingness to work and support their families with pride.

They have turned our beautiful Spanish cities into the third world,
drowning in filth and crime. Shut up in the apartments they receive
free from the government, they plan the murder and destruction of
their naive hosts. And thus, in our misery, we have exchanged culture for fanatical hatred, creative skill for destructive skill,
intelligence for backwardness and superstition.

We have exchanged the pursuit of peace of the Jews of Europe and their talent for hoping for a better future for their children, their
determined clinging to life because life is holy, for those who pursue death, for people consumed by the desire for death for themselves and others, for our children and theirs.

What a terrible mistake was made by miserable Europe.

This is a translation of an article from a Spanish newspaper. Please
send this article to as many people as possible, with a request to
forward it on.

Have a great day!

Blade
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I will not attempt to dissect the poem, Blade, but know that it contains many cases of what we call non-sequitur clauses.

Example: You call me rich then do not ask me. It does not follow that I would ask the rich for something because I have self-reliance.

Example: You call me mighty then do not honor me. It does not follow that I would honor the might because Might does not make Right. I would honor that which was consistently right.

Example: When I abandon you, then do not blame me. ... But many of us feel that we were abandoned long ago. We ARE abandoned. You don't answer prayers. You are distant. You don't even tell us "NO" - You just ignore us. So... I blame you for being the first one to leave.
 
I find it utterly laughable that certain microcephalic mouthbreathers here in America insist on thinking Obama is Muslim despite all the evidence to the contrary. If he's Muslim, then the fact that he eats bacon, shaves, drinks beer, attends a Christian church, has repeatedly stated that he's Christian, and even had a scandal during his first campaign because of the pastor of the Christian church he attended at the time indicates that he must be the worst Muslim ever.

The article you quoted is nothing but blatant racism, but that is hardly surprising considering the source.
 
Just noticed this old post in 2008 was posted by someone who last posted on this forum in 2011.
 
insist on thinking Obama is Muslim despite all the evidence to the contrary
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And what exactly has evidence to do with faith? There is nothing evidence-based nor rational about the issues espoused by the brigade arming themselves against the evil black helicopters.
 
spikepl said:
And what exactly has evidence to do with faith? There is nothing evidence-based nor rational about the issues espoused by the brigade arming themselves against the evil black helicopters.
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True enough.
 
Bladerunner said:
I see you have chosen, Satan (Lucifer) will be happy.

Have a nice day

Blade
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I admit that's an unsettling prospect, Blade, but long ago I had to deal with my fears of the boogeyman, as everyone does. The threat of the boogeyman - in one form or another has been used by religious proselytizers, missionaries, and preachers for as long as there has been religion.
"If you don't believe what I am telling you, then you're going to Hell."
I won't live my life or alter my beliefs based on threats of boogeymen, or promises of paradise.
I'm true to myself. I've examined my core beliefs as truly as I am able.
Better than that, I cannot be.

You didn't answer my question about the magic coin.
 
will have to take you'll one at a time. This is too important than not to get it right...

Blade
 
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