Coronavirus - are we all doomed?

[moke123]

the panic is ridiculous at this point.

Thinking like this is probably the reason your county has the highest number of cases in iowa.
22 known cases means there are likely over a hundred. Given it's a college town that number is probably pretty conservative.
40 year olds are not immune.

 

[NauticalGent]

Is this ridiculous?

Coronavirus: military vehicle column in Bergamo with coffins. An impressive column of military vehicles crossed the heart of Bergamo tonight, from the monumental cemetery to the highway, with the coffins of the coronavirus dead people on board. Bergamo cemetery can no longer manage for the high number of victims. Time for the cremations had now exceeded the week. The coffins, carried on about thirty army trucks, are about seventy and are directed to a dozen destinations throughout Italy.

 

[vba_php]

i'm not 40, if you're referring to me.

 

[vba_php]

the college kids in this town are stupid. they are travelling out of the country for spring break, and bringing the crap back with them.

 

[NauticalGent]

I noticed! I will try to find it somewhere other than FaceBook. It dovetails with a reply you made about how the different cultures are dealing with this thing...

 

[moke123]

i'm not 40, if you're referring to me.

39 yrs 10 month olds are not immune.

 

[vba_php]

39 yrs 10 month olds are not immune.

im still not concerned. I will send my next message from a hospital bed. Lol

 

[AccessBlaster]

Italy has a lot of contact with China as it pertains to goods and services. China relatively speaking is a closed and secretive society, they did not share with Italy, Iran or the rest of the world what happen in Wuhan until it was to late.

 

[vba_php]

Wuhan

I have no idea what's happening in Wuhan, but I do know that a person on Linkedin, from Wuhan, looked at my profile. perhaps I'm trouble? perhaps it was a hacker?

 

[The_Doc_Man]

Adam, in a world with this many people, there is a vast array of different motivations regarding why someone would look at your LinkedIn profile, including a search with poorly constructed limits on where to look. You yourself are a proponent of teaching people the "right" way to use Google. Can you not imagine a Google user looking for tech-savvy people but forgetting to specify where?

Don't go paranoid, young man. (You have called me "old man" once or twice, so I'm allowed...) Look for the simpler answer - a dumb user asking the wrong question.

 

[vba_php]

a dumb user asking the wrong question.

oh really, richard? then how to you explain FOUR chinese people in a very short time?? and for some reason, they now do not show up on my "whos viewed you" page. interesting stuff....hmmmm. they appeared just 2 hours ago.

 

[The_Doc_Man]

Ah, Adam ... Paranoia seems to be one of your strong suits.

But on another topic, that is actually related to the thread title:

We have been stocking up on things because Louisiana will probably in the next several days have a "self-isolation" order. So I've been going to various grocery stores including our favorite local chain and Wal Mart's grocery area. You can't find a lot of things. I remember seeing pictures of Russian markets before the collapse of the USSR as a political entity. The shelves in some aisles are just bare. Totally bare. It is more than a little bit depressing to see it that bad. We can't get toilet paper. Certain specific canned vegetables are out of stock. Bleach is impossible to find. I had to hit three stores before I found boxed cereal such as we like to use. Other things are in reduced supply but still available provided you are willing to work with nearly empty shelves. This is very depressing.

It isn't that we will starve. We have food. We have some supplies. But we can't get ordinary things that perhaps we have taken for granted. I will be glad to see this issue of supply/demand imbalance to level out.

 

[Jon]

I've been having arguments with a friend of mine from Florida. I just cannot understand why he is thinking the way he does. He keeps saying I am so biased and he doesn't understand why I am taking the view that I am. My prediction is that in 3 to 4 days the US will reach 25K cases and that in a couple of weeks, they are likely to exceed 80K cases, perhaps 100K+ cases. (I actually think more like 120K cases, because for me that is where the math points. But emotionally, it feels too large.) Of course, errors can be wide because when you double something every few days then it makes a big difference.

He thinks the US will top out at 25k - 30K cases. So, we have noted our projections down. He keeps saying that unless the US are not telling the citizens something, it won't go higher than 30K. i.e. he is giving himself a get out clause.

What are your projections for the US?

 

[vba_php]

What are your projections for the US?

jon, I'm not addressing your post, but why the he$$ haven't you sent me a PM back about your server question I asked you!?

 

[CJ_London]

look on the bright side, with the reductions being made to public transport, the chances of being run over by a bus are much reduced

 

[NauticalGent]

Found this...

 

[Jon]

I use that site to get my data too. If you click on the country, you get country specific graphs.

 

[Jon]

What I don't understand is why governments around the world are not better prepared for a pandemic of this magnitude, despite knowing it was not a case of if but when. The ability to convert one ventilator into potentially nine should have been part of contingency plans. It is just such short-term thinking.

Hospital turns its one ventilator into nine with some DIY mechanics

Dr Alain Gauthier, , an anesthetist at the Perth and Smiths Falls District Hospital in Ontario, Canada, learned how to rig the ventilator by watching YouTube videos created by two Detroit doctors.

www.dailymail.co.uk

The US for example spends $600 billion dollars a year (I think?) on military, yet how much are they spending on protection from a pandemic?

In my view, they should have been stockpiling face masks and other protective clothing, having a strategy for converting existing ventilators like shown in that link, and have more defined procedures for dealing with an outbreak. It just seems all so chaotic.

 

[The_Doc_Man]

What I don't understand is why governments around the world are not better prepared for a pandemic of this magnitude

My attitude in this case is that of a cynic. Within the last couple of months we learned of some supplies that had been stockpiled in Puerto Rico that the U.S Government's FEMA office had essentially forgotten about. They would have been available after the disasters that recently hit that island last year, but nobody remembered them. That is the problem with big governments - they LOSE things. Then, because they can't find the supplies they need they look like idiots. Whereas if FEMA had just bothered to look, they would have found a lot of emergency supplies and they would have looked like very good planners.

 

[vba_php]

have you guys seen this!?

Deputies stop stolen trailer full of toilet paper

GREENSBORO, N.C. (AP) — With toilet paper flying off the shelves, a North Carolina truck driver caused a stir when he was pulled over hauling 18,000 pounds of bathroom products

kwwl.com

hahahahaha. i just got back from wal mart too, and there is no damn TP on the shelves. =(