Coronavirus - are we all doomed?

[deletedT]

BTW Japan and South Korea really need to be congratulated on their COVID-19 approach. Its the only model that relied on common sense instead of faulty WHO and China data.

Not unfortunately lately.
South Korea has kept its 10K infections for the last two weeks, and doesn't show a growth for the past few weeks. They seem to be in a better condition than us.
Although we are still down in the list (6000), Japan has a considerably increase in daily infections. We had around 10 to 30 infections per day. But now it's changed to 100 to 200 new cases daily, mostly 20 to 30 years old patients.
The young generation doesn't follow the guide lines and don't listen what the health organization is asking them to do.
They know they are young and even if get infected, will be back to their normal life in 2-3 weeks.
Because infection mostly is seen between the young population, death count is still 99.
I think during the next week, Japan's total cases will be more than S.Korea

 

[AccessBlaster]

There seems to be at least 2 variants of the covid strain, the China version and the Euro version. Living on the west-coast of the US (California) our family feels certain we have been exposed and recovered early on from the China strain. While our brothers and sisters on the east-coast have been exposed to the more deadly euro strain. I would love to be tested to see if this is true.

 

[Steve R.]

@Uncle Gizmo
Not years off. It has already come.
SkyNet is here.

No kidding. After the terrorist strike on the World Trade Center (9/11) we became the "victims" of the Patriot Act to "protect" use from terrorists threats. Now the pandemic is being used as a convenient incident to promote some more social engineering, such as tracking where people are going and who they are in contact with.

Just this morning, a person who works for a drone manufacturing company, was dismissing (with repugnance) that drones would ever be used to "look inside people's bedrooms". His asserted that the drones would only be used to ensure social distancing complaisance. I guess, he has never heard of "mission creep". (the Patriot Act being one example.) Also, he used the phrase "whatever it takes", which is ominous.

In another clip, a person claimed that drones would not be video taping what they observe. We know from prior incidences, that officials do peek and leak. To extend this a bit further, drones may be used under the auspices of a search warrant. GPS devices and cell phones are increasingly becoming "targets" of the investigation process.

SkyNet is here.

 

[AccessBlaster]

And don't forget your immunity card when you are finally allowed to travel. You will need that to leave your house, but not needed to vote.

 

[deletedT]

In another clip, a person claimed that drones would not be video taping what they observe. We know from prior incidences, that officials do peek and leak. To extend this a bit further, drones may be used under the auspices of a search warrant. GPS devices and cell phones are increasingly becoming "targets" of the investigation process.

SkyNet is here.

@Steve R.
You're worrying about a drone peeking your bedroom?
Give me 7 minutes and I show you where the drones are heading. @Uncle Gizmo was talking about without human intervention .
But drones have past that line. They are AI now.
Watch full screen please.

Think about what he says at the end.
"You can target your enemy with a hashtag."
Well, tell the dornes, #moslem,#over20,#male and send them to a city.
It is not future. It is present.

 

[moke123]

There seems to be at least 2 variants of the covid strain, the China version and the Euro version. Living on the west-coast of the US (California) our family feels certain we have been exposed and recovered early on from the China strain. While our brothers and sisters on the east-coast have been exposed to the more deadly euro strain. I would love to be tested to see if this is true.

There is some talk that the euro strain came to new york before the west coast case.
There is also some reporting questioning the immunity factor. They are studying 2nd occurences to determine if it is a re-infection or if the existing virus is being re-activated.

GPS devices and cell phones are increasingly becoming "targets" of the investigation process.

Since net neutrality changes were made and Cell providers and Isp's were given the right to sell your data warrants are not neccesarily needed anymore. Third party vendors can aggregate what they purchase and sell that info to anyone. For instance Bounty Hunters can purchase location information based on cell data even down to what aisle in the supermarket you were standing in.

 

[Jon]

BTW Japan and South Korea really need to be congratulated on their COVID-19 approach. Its the only model that relied on common sense instead of faulty WHO and China data.

Completely agree.

 

[Jon]

There seems to be at least 2 variants of the covid strain, the China version and the Euro version. Living on the west-coast of the US (California) our family feels certain we have been exposed and recovered early on from the China strain. While our brothers and sisters on the east-coast have been exposed to the more deadly euro strain. I would love to be tested to see if this is true.

If you catch one, does that mean you can then also catch the other? Be interesting to know that.

 

[Steve R.]

A precursor of what is to come in our evolving surveillance state?

Pine Knoll Shores officials issue self-quarantine, registration orders

According to the announcement, self-quarantine requirements will commence at 11:59 p.m. Sunday for all residents and non-residents arriving for overnight stays. These people will be required to remain in their homes and not receive any visitors other than immediate family.

Additionally, anyone subject to self-quarantine will be required to register by emailing Police Chief Ryan Thompson at rthompson@townofpks.com or by calling the chief at 252-247-2474.

Those registering will need to provide Chief Thompson with the following information:

• A list of names of everyone arriving in Pine Knoll Shores.
• The address where they will be staying.
• Where they’re coming from.
• The expected length of the stay.
• A phone number where they can be reached.

Individuals exempt from self-quarantine requirements are those traveling for crucial medical attention, those escaping a life-threatening emergency, those receiving emergency service from first responders and those employed in essential jobs.

Welcome to the future.

 

[vba_php]

A precursor of what is to come in our evolving surveillance state?

speaking of precursors, the state of capitalism is in itself a precursor of what is to come, from a truthful standpoint.

 

[Steve R.]

Yesterday, I was walking by the TV and I incidentally heard a female reporter ask Trump to explain some Covid-19 response deficiencies that an Inspector General had found. Trump asked her who the Inspector General was. She could NOT answer!!

It is good that Trump did not immediately respond to the question, but instead asked her to explain the source of her information (the report).

Journalism has sunk to a new low were a person attempting to push an adversarial question to make Trump look bad, is not even prepared to cite the report that she allegedly read. Another gross example of fake news.

The avalanche of stupid reporter questions continues. The other day, a reporter, alluded to the current oil market as an obvious lead in to an adversarial question. Trump asked the reporter what the price of oil was. The reporter could not answer.

At today's briefing Trump was asked why he didn't act sooner. He responded that at the time the reporter was referencing there were zero deaths from the Covid-19 virus in the US. So he went on to respond that it would be inappropriate to close the country on so limited data. Anyway, she attempted to press on, despite the obvious impropriety of the accusations.

 

[Deleted member 147267]

Here's someone who obviously won't mind being stuck at home. His hobby is unique and his work is INCREDIBLE!

 

[moke123]

Yesterday, I was walking by the TV and I incidentally heard a female reporter ask Trump to explain some Covid-19 response deficiencies that an Inspector General had found. Trump asked her who the Inspector General was. She could NOT answer!!

It is good that Trump did not immediately respond to the question, but instead asked her to explain the source of her information (the report).

Actually he said

“So, give me the name of the inspector general?”

I've read about it a few times and I couldn't tell you the name but that does not negate the report.
https://time.com/5816134/covid-us-hospitals-patients/

At today's briefing Trump was asked why he didn't act sooner. He responded that at the time the reporter was referencing there were zero deaths from the Covid-19 virus in the US. So he went on to respond that it would be inappropriate to close the country on so limited data. Anyway, she attempted to press on, despite the obvious impropriety of the accusations.

He said Jan. 17th. The first positive test was Jan. 20th. Closing the country doesn't do . There were still 400k people arriving after his ban." Acting sooner" covers a lot more than banning travel or closing the country. It means preparing, coming up with a strategy, gathering supplies. Does someone need to die before you start doing that? https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/04/us/coronavirus-china-travel-restrictions.html
It only takes one match to light a fire. https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/12/us/coronavirus-biogen-boston-superspreader.html

A friend of mine went to India to visit his parents 3 weeks ago. He said he was not checked for anything when leaving and returning. No temperature, No questions. Scary.

 

[moke123]

This is the article Trump didn't like today. Its an interesting read. Theres a link to the PDF of the "Red Dawn" email chain thats long but interesting.
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/11/us/politics/coronavirus-red-dawn-emails-trump.html

link tp PDF - https://int.nyt.com/data/documenthe...6f590d5cd41e11bea0f/optimized/full.pdf#page=1

 

[AccessBlaster]

The NY Times do not need to invent a timeline conspiracy. All the politicians and most of the media, including the doctors were misled by China and the W.H.O. Sorry if that doesn't fit the liberal narrative.

 

[deletedT]

All the politicians and most of the media, including the doctors were misled by China and the W.H.O.

All the whole world were misled by China and W.H.O.
Why US is in the worst position?

I've said it before. Even if you are his supporter, don't close your eyes to facts.

 

[moke123]

The NY Times do not need to invent a timeline conspiracy. All the politicians and most of the media, including the doctors were misled by China and the W.H.O. Sorry if that doesn't fit the liberal narrative.

While the email chain begins with some study of China, It quickly turns to the cruise ship data and U.S. data.

Impressive list of participants including Surgeon General and Dr.Fauci

Some of the individuals included in these emails
Surgeon General of the United States.
++ Dr. Jerome Adams
HomelandSecurity
++ Dr. DuaneCaneva,DHS Chief medicalofficer
++ Dr. DavidS Wade, medicalofficer,Departmentof HomelandSecurity,previouslyon NSC
++ Dr. ThomasWilkinson,MedicalInformationOfficer DHS
++ HerbertO. Wolfedirector and actingchief of staff of the Office of the Chief MedicalOfficer at the U.S.
Departmentof HomelandSecurity.
++ Dr. DavidTarantino,senior medicaladviser for CBP andcoordinator of the protectionpartof CBP's
responseto the opioidcrisis.
++ Dr.GregoryJ.Martin,StateDepartment
++ Dr.Alexander L.Eastmansenior medicalofficer HomelandSecurity
++ Dr.SangeetaKaushikisanemergencymedicinephysicianat DHS
STATEDepartment
++ Dr.LarryG.PadgetJr. StateDepartment
Healthand HumanServicesand Centersfor DiseaseControland Prevention
++ BrettGiroir,AssistantSecretaryfor Healthat theU.S.Departmentof Healthand HumanServices
++ Dr.Anthony Fauci,director of the NationalInstituteof AllergyandInfectiousDiseases
++ Dr.RobertKadlec,AssistantSecretaryof Healthand HumanServices
++ Dr.RichardHunt,senior medicaladvisor
++ Dr.RobertR.Redfield,Directorof the Centersfor DiseaseControland Prevention
++ ChristianHassellSenior ScienceAdvisor at U.S.Departmentof Healthand HumanServices
++ DanielDodgen,director of ASPR Divisionfor At-Risk Individuals,BehavioralHealth,andCommunity
Resilience.
++ KristinL.DeBord,Directorof StrategyOfficeof theAssistantSecretaryfor Preparednessand
ResponseU.S.Departmentof HealthandHumanServices
++ RobertJohnson,Ph.D.,is the Director of the InfluenzaandEmergingInfectiousDiseasesDivisionof
BiomedicalAdvancedResearchDevelopmentAuthority
++ KevinYeskey,M.D.currentlyserves as the PrincipalDeputyAssistantSecretaryto the Assistant
Secretaryfor PreparednessandResponse(ASPR)at the Departmentof Healthand HumanServices
(HHS).Theofficeleads the nationin preventing,respondingto andrecoveringfrom the adversehealth
effects of manmadeandnaturallyoccurringdisaster and publichealthemergencies.
++ Dr.Gary Disbrowis the DeputyDirector(Acting)of the BiomedicalAdvancedResearchand
DevelopmentAuthority
++ Dr. JohnT. Redd,a medicalepidemiologistwiththe U.S.Centersfor DiseaseControlandPrevention
Department of Defense
++ Col. Matthew Hepburn, M.D., DARPA program manager, former director of Medical Preparedness on
the White House National Security Staff.
Department of Veterans Affairs
++ Dr. Carter E.Mecher, Senior Medical Advisor
++ Paul Kshemendra, chief data officer and executive director for data governance and analytics
ACADEMICS/PrivateSector/FormerGovernmentOfficials
++ EvaK Lee: Americanoperationsresearcher who applies combininratorialoptimizationandsystems
biologyto the study of healthcare decision making at GeorgiaTech
++ Tom Bossert former HomelandSecurity Advisor to U.S.PresidentDonaldTrump.
++ Dr. Dan Hanfling,MD, Clinical Professor of EmergencyMedicine at GeorgeWashingtonUniversity
also with In-Q-Tel
+ + RalphBaric, PhD, Professorin the DepartmentofEpidemiologyUNC, leaderin the studyof
coronaviruses
+ + RichardHatchettCEO Coalitionfor EpidemicPreparedness. Servedin the WhiteHousesof
PresidentsGeorgeW . Bush and BarackObama
+ + Dr. JamesLawler, infectiousdisease doctor atUniversityofNebraska, served as a memberofthe
HomelandSecurityCouncilfor PresidentGeorge W . Bush and as a memberofthe NationalSecurity
CouncilforPresidentBarack Obama.
+ + Dr. DavidMarcozzi, formersenior advisorfor EmergencyPreparednessand Acute Care within the
Centers ofMedicareandMedicaidServices andmemberofWhite HouseNationalSecurity Council.
+ + + MichaelWargois vice presidentofemergencypreparednessat HCAHealthcare.
+ + Herbert O . Wolfe ofPennState, formerNationalSecurity Councilstaffat the White House
STATEOFFICIALS
+ + Dr. Charity A Dean, CaliforniaDepartmentofPublicHealth
+ ++ DavidGruberTexasDepartmentofStateHealth ServicesMobileAssociate Commissionerfor
Regionaland LocalHealthOperations, BorderHealth, EmergencyPreparednessand the Texas Center
for InfectiousDisease.
+ + Dr. Jeffrey S . Duchin, Health Officerand Chief, CommunicableDisease Epidemiology Immunization
SectionPublicHealth- Seattle and KingCo

 

[AccessBlaster]

Look the media is scared their guy Biden is a non starter, they are coming to grips with the prospect of four more years of Trump. Russia did not work and Biden's about to take a nap.

 

[AccessBlaster]

I've said it before. Even if you are his supporter, don't close your eyes to facts.

I'll leave it to the voters in November. I am not a republican.

 

[AccessBlaster]

Medical news today

Here is something I have been looking at for a while.
United States Nationally, the numbers below from 2017 are staggering, does anyone notice?

Answer: NO, It's not politically expedient.

COVID-19

Confirmed
586,057

Recovered
43,637

Deaths
23,604
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Top ten deaths in 2017

Cancer
Deaths in 2017: 599,108
Percentage of total deaths: 21.3%

Heart disease
Deaths in 2017: 647,457
Percentage of total deaths: 23.5%

Unintentional injuries
Deaths in 2017: 169,936
Percentage of total deaths: 6%

Chronic lower respiratory disease
Deaths in 2017: 160,201
Percentage of total deaths: 5.7%

Stroke and cerebrovascular diseases
Deaths in 2017: 146,383
Percentage of total deaths: 5.2%

Alzheimer’s disease
Deaths in 2017: 121,404
Percentage of total deaths: 4.3%

Diabetes
Deaths in 2017: 83,564
Percentage of total deaths: 3%

Influenza and pneumonia
Deaths in 2017: 55,672
Percentage of total deaths: 2%

Kidney disease
Deaths in 2017: 50,633
Percentage of total deaths: 1.8%

Suicide
Deaths in 2017: 47,173