I'm thinking of moving

Measured respectful comments there thank you Richard...

But I must say that Colin has degenerated into his worst form of trolish.behaviour. And here I was thinking he had changed into a decent human being. :(
 
OK. Given that there are cultural differences between the USA and the UK. I will stop using terms that are perfectly normal here as it upsets sensitive people here.
Col
 
'Dear' is a perfectly normal turn of phrase in English! Same as m'duck in Nottinghamshire, luv in various places and darling, mate etc.

I also think that whole argument over the Canaries is fatuous .
1. Not when you use it the way Colin does.
2. I agree.
People do that type of thing out of habit or in an attempt to be friendly.
That is not the current context and you know it. You don't call someone you dislike "dear" unless your intention is to insult.
Pat, your reaction was a bit hypersensitive. But you know that old saying about "water off a duck's back" when it comes to Col. You have to decide to ignore him (and thus deprive him of his misguided fun) or react (and thus encourage him to try for another reaction.)
You ignore him. It is not you he keeps attacking. He has declared war. Asking him nicely does nothing.
 
You are of course entitled to your opinions, however misguided.
Col
 
Don't get yourself banned because of the troll.
 
LOL, nobody likes government. Until the company next door dumps their cancer stuff in your back yard.


Or your bank opens accounts and credit cards without your knowledge or permission...


Or a bridge collapse...


Less taxes, less maintenance, less regulations, less expenses for them poor businesses...

Jess sayin


 
1) more scenic, in terms of deciduous forest and non-desert type beauty
2) has waterways, green grass and trees, and maybe even an ocean Coast
3) isn't too much more humid than AZ - somewhat is OK/expected, but we don't want to move to 'full' humidity
4) is cooler than Phoenix by at least ~14-15 degrees, which Albuquerque just barely accomplishes
5) is affordable
6) maybe has winter, but not a super long / cold one

To make a comment appropriate to the original question:

Consider someplace on or near the Gulf Coast.

#1 - we have lots of deciduous trees as well as some evergreen forests if you go inland a bit.
#2 - we have bayous, green grass and trees, and a Gulf coast. We also have kudzu if you like green, leafy vines.
#3 - sorry, but "coast" and "not so humid" don't go together very well. We have summers that are 95 by 95 - temperature and humidity
#4 - we rarely break 100 degr. F
#5 - depends on your budget, but generally speaking, the cost of living here is lower than any place on the West Coast
#6 - our winters rarely get super cold. In fact, last year's snow event was the first time we had snow that stayed for more than 10 minutes since I retired in 2016. We might have three or four times a year when we have a hard enough freeze to have to protect outdoor plants.

On the down side, you might not want to stay really CLOSE to the coast because of hurricanes. If you go inland a ways, the storms wear themselves down a bit once they get over land. But we rarely have earthquakes worthy of the name. You do have to be careful if you live close to open water, since the American alligator likes that terrain.

Back on the plus side, as long as you aren't a barbecue junky, we have some really good food here, mostly seafood, pork, or chicken - but some beef dishes can be found.
 
How about next building to NASA? If any apocalypse happens...
Anyways, on the serious note, In my view... Many important facilities like NASA are built after through climate and Ecological Survey only. If you ask me where I can buy a house or land in my city. My reply will be "As closest to the District Headquarters' office building". You know... Everything will be handy there. Police, Municipality, City Formal offices and everything.
 
LOL, nobody likes government. Until the company next door dumps their cancer stuff in your back yard.


Or your bank opens accounts and credit cards without your knowledge or permission...


Or a bridge collapse...


Less taxes, less maintenance, less regulations, less expenses for them poor businesses...

Jess sayin


Certainly, some regulation is required - although common civil actions against tortfeasors could dissuade bad behavior in many of those categories, but it's all a matter of balance. I wish neither the wild west NOR the current-day overregulation, whereby I change my zip code on a banking account and get an app notification, 2 text messages, and 3 pieces of mail letting me know I did so

It's a matter of balance, I just personally think we gone too far in one direction
 
To make a comment appropriate to the original question:

Consider someplace on or near the Gulf Coast.

#1 - we have lots of deciduous trees as well as some evergreen forests if you go inland a bit.
#2 - we have bayous, green grass and trees, and a Gulf coast. We also have kudzu if you like green, leafy vines.
#3 - sorry, but "coast" and "not so humid" don't go together very well. We have summers that are 95 by 95 - temperature and humidity
#4 - we rarely break 100 degr. F
#5 - depends on your budget, but generally speaking, the cost of living here is lower than any place on the West Coast
#6 - our winters rarely get super cold. In fact, last year's snow event was the first time we had snow that stayed for more than 10 minutes since I retired in 2016. We might have three or four times a year when we have a hard enough freeze to have to protect outdoor plants.

On the down side, you might not want to stay really CLOSE to the coast because of hurricanes. If you go inland a ways, the storms wear themselves down a bit once they get over land. But we rarely have earthquakes worthy of the name. You do have to be careful if you live close to open water, since the American alligator likes that terrain.

Back on the plus side, as long as you aren't a barbecue junky, we have some really good food here, mostly seafood, pork, or chicken - but some beef dishes can be found.

I have this mental block towards the S/E as every time I turn on the weather channel, there's either storms and flooding or tornadoes or everything all at once ... but on the other hand, your points are well taken as in there is tons of beautiful coastal land and more affordable. Frankly it might be a good fit for me despite having to bear up under the humidity. I have also pondered the Carolinas, until I saw numerous towns decimated by flooding despite being far inland!

We are now thinking most seriously of either moving to Florida or just moving back to a better part of town here. We like the suburbs - chandler, gilbert, ahwatukee - we just have to get out of this godforsaken west side that's a cesspool of moral turpitude. (I just wanted to use that phrase - I'm joking, athough it kind of really is lol). Gotta get back to the part of town where the good people of Chandler are washing their cars on Sunday afternoons and are mostly insulated from crime - twill be grand!
 
I cannot lie to you. Flooding is an issue. Because of screw-ups, Hurricane Katrina (2005) was painful. About 2 feet of flood water made it inside the house and stayed for 3 weeks because the drainage pumps couldn't be primed easily. But since then, our local government has reworked the pumping stations so that an engineer can safely stay in a solid concrete elevated station to monitor and control the pumps. We have flood control structures, though in fact they are really flood remediation structures - to help the high water leave the area.

The fact is, though, that very few places in the USA don't have some kind of really unpleasant phenomena just waiting. How about earthquakes, forest fires, or mudslides in southern coastal California? Try butt-deep blizzards starting in northern CA and going north from there because of the Japan Current off the coast of Oregon. Then there is the great American dust bowl and its frequent tornadoes. The great desert southwest offers you blistering, dangerous heat. You get massive snow-storms in the Great Lakes region and across through the northern Appalachians. The East Coast catches all sorts of hurricanes and lesser storms. When you get down to it, every place in the USA has something waiting for you to encounter nature at her most unpleasant. You just have to pick your favorite flavor.
 
And on top of that it seems that tornadoes are becoming more common and more commonly in places where they didn't used to have much of.

It used to be a tornado was the occasional phenomenon in flat expanses - Illinois, Kansas, Iowa, etc. Now they are in Wisconsin (very unusual) and seems like all over.
 
LOL, nobody likes government. Until the company next door dumps their cancer stuff in your back yard.
If the regulations imposed by the government made any sense, none of the bad stuff would happen, would it? The "regulations" would stop it. Right? If honest people can't buy guns, bad people couldn't use them to shoot people. Everyone knows that to be a "fact" right? Bureaucrats write regulations but they never assess their impact so they don't know which succeed and which fail and which cause worse problems. They just assume they will work and move on to create more rules. Old, ineffective, even dangerous rules are never removed. Trump is actually forcing that issue and requiring 10 (?) rules to be removed for each new rule added.
 
If the regulations imposed by the government made any sense, none of the bad stuff would happen, would it? The "regulations" would stop it. Right? If honest people can't buy guns, bad people couldn't use them to shoot people. Everyone knows that to be a "fact" right? Bureaucrats write regulations but they never assess their impact so they don't know which succeed and which fail and which cause worse problems. They just assume they will work and move on to create more rules. Old, ineffective, even dangerous rules are never removed. Trump is actually forcing that issue and requiring 10 (?) rules to be removed for each new rule added.
Your message ties in very nicely to my comment about tort actions. I agree. The bad things are happening regardless and the only thing people can usually do is react to them, which could easily be handled by civil claims instead
 
which could easily be handled by civil claims instead
In 1937 to 1977 G.E. dumped cancerous PCB's into the Housatonic river and polluted it from the middle of Massachusetts down to Pat's area in CT. The litigation to clean it up started 30 - 40 years ago and is still being litigated. I wouldn't say "easily handled"
 
Were there laws in place that "prevented" GE from dumping the PCB's? Even without knowing specifically about the dangers of PCB's, there should have been laws in place controlling dumping anything into rivers except clean water. Or are they being prosecuted based on today's standards?
 

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