ordering in subforms

Graham Bucknall

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I have a database with firms and employees. In the header I choose a firm, in the main form the data about the firm is dispalyed and then in the subform I have a list of employees who are part of our project. The trouble is they don't come out in alphabetical order by surname which I need.
There is a table for firms and one for employees and they are linked by a firmid.

I have tried various things but nothing seems to work.
 
Right click on the column and select sort ascending from the pop up menu , click ctrl + S you may have to do it more than once but Access will eventually save the order by on the subform
 
I've tried this about 10 times now on the subform (which does come out sorted alphabatically when i just open that). When I open the main form with the subform embedded then it goes back to them appearing unsorted on the subform section!!
 

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