Price of gas

jsanders said:
We could ship it to The British.
We're cleaning up enough of your mess already, thank you!
 
Rich said:
You've forgotten The Iron Horse, in other words public transport, make more use of it


There isn't much public transportation where I live. So I can't make use of it. ;)
 
selenau837 said:
There isn't much public transportation where I live. So I can't make use of it. ;)
We too have rural areas where the public transport is either poor or even non existant, however with a little imagination this can be overcome;)
 
Rich said:
We too have rural areas where the public transport is either poor or even non existant, however with a little imagination this can be overcome;)

Perhaps, this gas thing is killin' me too. My car is a 2005 Kia Rio. It only has a 10 gallon tank. It cost me almost $30 to fill it up. As much driving as I do, I'm doing that 2 to 3 times a week. That is about 90$ a week. That is a bit much for me to afford. But I do what I have to do to make sure I have gas.

Even the pawn shops in Columbia are doing great business due to people having to pawn items for gas money. It is a sad state if you ask me.
 
jsanders said:
You’re starting to sound like Rich,
Knowlegable, intelligent, humourous, etc. . . . . . . . . .yes. I can see it now:)

Col
 
wazz said:
rotflmao............

Well I was wondering how you were going to react.

The vast majority of electricity is produced by burning coal.

In spite of laws to prevent it, electricity producers are among the largest polluters. If we shift transportation fuel consumption to electricity we will need to radically increase the capacity in the system, consuming even more coal.
 
jsanders said:
Well I was wondering how you were going to react.

The vast majority of electricity is produced by burning coal.

In spite of laws to prevent it, electricity producers are among the largest polluters. If we shift transportation fuel consumption to electricity we will need to radically increase the capacity in the system, consuming even more coal.

Then you need to enforce the laws that make the burning of fossil fuels both more efficient and cleaner, besides which the US has far greater use of the sun for solar energy than we do
 
selenau837 said:
Perhaps, this gas thing is killin' me too. My car is a 2005 Kia Rio. It only has a 10 gallon tank. It cost me almost $30 to fill it up. As much driving as I do, I'm doing that 2 to 3 times a week. That is about 90$ a week. That is a bit much for me to afford. But I do what I have to do to make sure I have gas.

Even the pawn shops in Columbia are doing great business due to people having to pawn items for gas money. It is a sad state if you ask me.

Why not get a scooter ?:confused:
 
Rich said:
We too have rural areas where the public transport is either poor or even non existant, however with a little imagination this can be overcome;)

Did you read my earlier post on the size of this country.

Stubornly spouting ignorance once again.
 
jsanders said:
Did you read my earlier post on the size of this country.

Stubornly spouting ignorance once again.

Have you never heard the phrase "size doesn't matter" ? :rolleyes:
What the hell does size have to do with it anyway, there are other bigger countries on the planet that manage without cars?
Are the Russians and Chinese stupid? Please stop and think before jumping in with rash statements:rolleyes:
 
The only answer is research. We need to develop new fuels.

Just think if our leadership would have invested the 1,200,000,000,000 dollars they squandered invading Iraq, on energy research, or just education, where we would be.
 
Rich said:
Have you never heard the phrase "size doesn't matter" ? :rolleyes:
What the hell does size have to do with it anyway, there are other bigger countries on the planet that manage without cars?
Are the Russians and Chinese stupid? Please stop and think before jumping in with rash statements:rolleyes:

Soon the Chinese will have more cars than us.
 
Rich said:
What do we do with the waste, leave it for future generations ?:confused:

There is an extensive program ongoing to develop Fast nuclear or Hybrid nuclear reactors. This means that high level radioactive waste is transmuted into byproducts and/or low level radioactive waste. The low level waste can be stored for some 10 to 50 years , during which most of the radioactive isotopes will decay, and the waste can be disposed of as normal refuse.

If we continue to use our sources as we do today, we have to decide to apply alternative methods of energy sources. Nuclear powered power stations may be one of them.
 
rak said:
There is an extensive program ongoing to develop Fast nuclear or Hybrid nuclear reactors. This means that high level radioactive waste is transmuted into byproducts and/or low level radioactive waste. The low level waste can be stored for some 10 to 50 years , during which most of the radioactive isotopes will decay, and the waste can be disposed of as normal refuse.

If we continue to use our sources as we do today, we have to decide to apply alternative methods of energy sources. Nuclear powered power stations may be one of them.


An increase in fission reactors is a viable intermediate step to a world powered by fusion.
 
My long term goals include building a biofuel farm in North East Texas. My family own land there and we are making plans to create a self sufficient community using advanced technologies to raise aquatic crops, recycled waste and obtain energy from solar and what we can grow ourselves.
 
jsanders said:
Did you read my earlier post on the size of this country.

Stubornly spouting ignorance once again.

Just insulting people is not a valid argument, however true it is that your country is bigger that isn't the only issue, lack of good alternative transport probably is, but lets face it Americans just wont walk. I discovered this on my first trip to the States in '88 and don't think anything has changed.

Actually it was quite funny I'm sure it will amuse Rich and Col.

It was a business trip, we were staying in Costa Mesa , south LA, and wanted to take some genuine American cookies home so we asked the hotel conciege where to get them.

" Make a right out of the parking lot , right onto Bear , cross Sunflower and the parking lot for the Supermarket is on the right" So we walked some 200 yards down the hotel carpark to our car followed the directions and as we got out of our car we looked back at the entrance to the hotel about 150 yards away.:D :D :D

Brian
 
selenau837 said:
It only has a 10 gallon tank. It cost me almost $30 to fill it up.

Okay so I need tofill up today as well

Now that will be around 50 litres. That's around 11 gallons (British) At about £0.97 per litre about £48.50 or $87.30 approx.

Okay so I get 45 miles to the gallon and cos england is not so big as USA as pointed out earlier I probably do not drive so far.
BUT the damn tax man here takes such a slice that any boycott is pointless as the oil company part of the cost is really very small. but it seems that every government that I can remember and that's quite a few has always seen fuel tax as a nice little earner.

Haven't got to to the point of "hocking" anything yet, maybe I will have to sell my body instead.:D :D :D

L
 
Wouldn't fusion reactors be a better alternative ?
I understood that Fusion reactors would produce less hazardous radioactive waste. Because their fuel, deuterium (an isotope of hydrogen readily separated from water), is far less expensive to obtain than enriched uranium, fusion reactors also would be far more economical to operate.


Source NCAS
 

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