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So, if the OP doesn't actually care, you are saying we should help him get a good grade anyway?
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No, I don't say you SHOULD.
I just shared my 2 cents and my thought.
You have your beliefs which may be better than mine. Just follow your instincts and what you believe in.
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Hm. I thought you were justifying cheating on the basis that it didn't matter one way or the other whether he learned the material.
Yes, you are correct. I was justifying what all said. But was justifying it within myself. I didn't mean you or others are wrong. I just shared my feelings and how I feel and would behave. Never asked anyone to accept or follow it.
Thanks for the kind words.
I didn't ask you to. And I didn't expect you or others to do it for him.
For anyone who may have problems in my point of view, I just said I don't blame him for trying to get rid of something that he may have being obliged to do. I just said I HAVE DONE IT too because it was something that I didn't need.
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My apologies. Seems that I started it.
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Noooooo. I started it earlier today.My apologies. Seems that I started it.
BTW, I do appreciate all of our experts they do a great job!My point was if he wasn't going to get help here, maybe try another approach. Again apologies I didn't mean to offend anyone.
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For me, a foreign language was required. I took German. When I got into grad school, I actually used it once I picked a mentor professor, because I was delving into aqueous solutions of metal ions. Long story, it was useful if you were studying certain metal alloy additives OR if you were studying oil-based metallic paints. (See, for example, Vanadium Yellow and Molybdenum Blue.) Turns out that most of the research in metal ion solutions was either in French or German. My French wasn't good enough to speak it, but I could read technical articles. My German was good enough to read tech stuff as well, so I actually used my German until I graduated.
But grad school also required another language. I was about ready to go crazy and take French when I found that there was a loophole. The 2nd language could be a computer language. So I implemented an assembly language plotting subroutine callable from any scientific language. It's main purpose was to drive a pen-and-paper flat-bed plotter to do scientific graphs in linear, logarithmic, and polar coordinate systems. The committee approved the project so I wrote up the formal documentation and presented it to my major professors and a couple of folks from the computer science department. The CSCI folks IMMEDIATELY said, "We will put this in our utility library." Got an A+ on the project, which meant my extra language was covered. The CSCI folks used it for at least another 8 to 10 years after I graduated. So I didn't actually cheat - but I did find a bypass. I don't feel bad, though, because I did honor the requirements including a workable program that others could use.
But grad school also required another language. I was about ready to go crazy and take French when I found that there was a loophole. The 2nd language could be a computer language. So I implemented an assembly language plotting subroutine callable from any scientific language. It's main purpose was to drive a pen-and-paper flat-bed plotter to do scientific graphs in linear, logarithmic, and polar coordinate systems. The committee approved the project so I wrote up the formal documentation and presented it to my major professors and a couple of folks from the computer science department. The CSCI folks IMMEDIATELY said, "We will put this in our utility library." Got an A+ on the project, which meant my extra language was covered. The CSCI folks used it for at least another 8 to 10 years after I graduated. So I didn't actually cheat - but I did find a bypass. I don't feel bad, though, because I did honor the requirements including a workable program that others could use.
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I was required to have two years of a non-English language for my Masters in English. I choose German and struggled through the first year. Then I met my future wife, who is Venezuelan, and began to learn Spanish. I petitioned to take the second year of my two year language requirement in Spanish instead. My grades were much better because I had a full-time tutor.
But on a more serious note, university study used to be based on the assumption that one would be exposed to a wide array of experiences and knowledge, arts, history, even philosophy, in addition to the core subject of your major. At some point, the socio-cultural aspects of a university education were devalued to the point where we now have college graduates (at least in the US) who don't know what happened in their own country prior to the invention of the internet. We repeat historical blunders without even knowing we are doing so.
And, yes, I also yell at kids about staying off my lawn.
But on a more serious note, university study used to be based on the assumption that one would be exposed to a wide array of experiences and knowledge, arts, history, even philosophy, in addition to the core subject of your major. At some point, the socio-cultural aspects of a university education were devalued to the point where we now have college graduates (at least in the US) who don't know what happened in their own country prior to the invention of the internet. We repeat historical blunders without even knowing we are doing so.
And, yes, I also yell at kids about staying off my lawn.
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Nearly two-thirds of US young adults unaware 6m Jews killed in the Holocaust
According to survey of adults 18-39, 23% said they believed the Holocaust was a myth, had been exaggerated or they weren’t sure
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I am not sitting through an advert that takes over 3 minutes.
Does it make their lives any better if they knew?
Nearly two-thirds of US young adults unaware 6m Jews killed in the Holocaust
I didn't know that, but if knowing how many jews were killed makes my life and my society better, I'll start reading history books.
Personally I think their low level of capability in math, physics, chemistry is much more critical and has more impact in their lives, than their level of knowledge in history. If for any reason someday I gain the power, I work more on scientific aspects.
Again just what I think. You may think different and be happy that I won't have that power ever.
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It doesn't answer my simple question.
Does it make my life better? Does it make me a better person?
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better person, better life - for me it is about being happy (and happy does not equate to complacent). Knowing where I came from, where my environment came from is part of that. If I didn't know about the holocaust, WW1 or WW2 it probably wouldn't make a whole lot of difference, but it gives me perspective - life now v life then and I consider myself fortunate, which goes towards making me happy.
You make absolute sense. But those who didn't know about 6 million innocents who were sacrificed are happy too, but in a different way.
I'm happy too, without knowing where I came from.
Human has been killing each other from a 1000 years ago. Do we have to know all the counts to know where we came from?
Few people may know about the count of those who were killed by Chinggis Khan, or European wars of religion or in Vietnam or during Persian Gulf war or ..... But everybody is OK with it until somebody starts writing an article that the young generation doesn't know about 6m jews. Just like it's the end of the world (or humanity).
Why only the young generation is under question? How many of us (who are not a part of young adults) know how many people have been killed during any of above wars (or other major wars)?
If those young adults who are blamed for not knowing about the 6m count, are in a situation that need to know how many were killed in world war 2, they can google it. What's wrong with not knowing it? We're living in a time that we can talk to our phones. My phone is not able to solve some difficult calculations. That's where I spent my time to learn more and that's when my knowledge comes to life. But it can answer me how many were sacrificed in world war 2. I don't blame myself for not knowing the count.
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