The Qur'an

Lot was not a pedofile the way you know that term today.
History is written by the victors who often claim that the vanquished were evil. The truth is the Hebrews were violently invaders and participated in multiple brutal genocides, looting the towns of those they murdered for precious metals and jewels which they put in a box and worshipped.
Sodom and Gamorah were of the most wicked in the eyes of the Lord. They suffered the consequences of their sin, plain and simple. What they attempted to do to the angels was bad enough, but there wasn't one upright person in that land. God did a lot of judging in the old testament. Things changed after his son paid the sin bill.
 
Question: If God exists and created everything, why doesn't he eradicate childhood disease, make everyone believe in him, remove hell, end suffering, and put a stop to evil?

It's not for us to question God. What's important is that those who deserve to go to heaven will do so because they deserved it and those who deserve to go to helln will do so because they deserved it. Any sufferring in this life will be taken into account.
Why do men create prisons?

Satan was an angel who rebelled against God

Not according to Islam. He is a jinn, a different creation by God.

When the angels said: “O Mary! Allaah gives you the good news of a Word from Him, whose name is the Messiah, Jesus son of Mary, who is illustrious in this world and the hereafter, and who is one of those brought near [to Allaah].
Qur'an 3.45

171. O People of the Book! Commit no excesses in your religion or utter anything concerning Allaah but the truth. The Messiah, Jesus son of Mary, was only a messenger of Allaah, His Word that He sent to Mary, and a Spirit (Gabriel) from Him [that He sent]. So believe in Allaah and His messengers, and do not say “Three.” Desist, it is better for you! Allaah is one God. Far exalted is He above having offspring. His is all that is in the heavens and all that is on the earth. Allaah is sufficient a disposer of affairs.
172. The Messiah would never scorn to be a servant to Allaah, nor would the angels who are nearest to Allaah. As for those who scorn His service and are arrogantly proud, He shall gather them all to Himself to answer.

Qur'an 4.171-2

They have indeed disbelieved those who say: “Allaah is the Messiah son of Mary.” Say [O Muhammad!]: “Who then can do anything against Allaah if He had willed to destroy the Messiah son of Mary, his mother, and everyone on earth?” Allaah’s is the kingdom of the heavens and the earth and all that is between them. He creates what He wills. Allaah is able to do all things.
Qur'an 5.17

Surely they disbelieve those who say: “Allaah is the Messiah son of Mary.” The Messiah himself said: “O Children of Israel! Worship Allaah, my Lord and your Lord. Whoever joins other gods with Allaah, for him Allaah has forbidden paradise. His abode is the Fire. The evildoers shall have no helpers.”
Qur'an 5.72

The Messiah son of Mary was no other than a messenger before whom [similar] messengers passed away, and his mother was a saintly woman. They used to eat food [like other human beings]. See how We make the revelations clear to them, and see how they are deluded!
Qur'an 5.75
 
changed after his son paid the sin bill.

Who alone is IMMORTAL and who lives in unapproachable light, whom NO ONE HAS SEEN or can see. To him be honor and might forever. Amen.
1Timothy 6:16

The one who sins is the one who will die. The child will not share the guilt of the parent, nor will the parent share the guilt of the child.
The righteousness of the righteous will be credited to them, and the wickedness of the wicked will be charged against them.
Ezekiel 18:20

Hence Jesus is NOT God and we are responsible for our sins as the Bible and also the Qur'an say so.
 
Go ahead, Aziz, and continue to post that self-serving (and highly monotonous) text.

But then again, Muhammad was surely a son of a woman who ate the same food as his chronological counterparts. Nothing divine about him either. He was just another messenger. Oh the other hand, Muslims go crazy if we depict Muhammad and yet when we depict Jesus you shrug it off. They were both just messengers, right? Care to address that discrepancy? You have admitted that Jesus was counting among Muslims as a messenger. I have never heard anything stating the divinity of Muhammad. So why all the fuss?

<Imagines a picture of a frowning Allah who sees His people worshiping a mortal man.>
 
Go ahead, Aziz, and continue to post that self-serving (and highly monotonous) text.

I don't need your permission.

And when Our verses are recited to them as clear evidences, you recognize in the faces of those who disbelieve disapproval. They are almost on the verge of assaulting those who recite to them Our verses. Say, "Then shall I inform you of [what is] worse than that? [It is] the Fire which Allaah has promised those who disbelieve, and wretched is the destination."
Qur’an – Surah al-Hajj (The Pilgrimage) 22:72

Never said that Muhammad (peace be upon him) was divine. Where did you get that from? He was indeed another messenger but the Seal of the Prophets. We don't depict any Prophet. I don't see any discrepancy. It may be your imagination and you are the one who is making the fuss where there isn't any.

You cannot make an image of God as He does NOT resemble His creation.

Indeed, those who abuse Allaah and His Messenger - Allaah has cursed them in this world and the Hereafter and prepared for them a humiliating punishment.
Qur'an 33:57

64. Indeed, Allaah has CURSED the DISBELIEVERS and prepared for them a BLAZE.
65. Abiding therein FOREVER, they will NOT FIND a protector or a helper.
66. The Day their FACES will be turned about in the FIRE, they will say, "How we wish we had obeyed Allaah and obeyed the Messenger."

Qur'an 33:64-66
 
Who alone is IMMORTAL and who lives in unapproachable light, whom NO ONE HAS SEEN or can see. To him be honor and might forever. Amen.
1Timothy 6:16

The one who sins is the one who will die. The child will not share the guilt of the parent, nor will the parent share the guilt of the child.
The righteousness of the righteous will be credited to them, and the wickedness of the wicked will be charged against them.
Ezekiel 18:20

Hence Jesus is NOT God and we are responsible for our sins as the Bible and also the Qur'an say so.
Boy are you mistaken and greatly deceived. When Paul (formally Saul) was on the road to Damascus, he seen the risen lord Jesus Christ and was blinded by his light after looking at him. He clearly identified himself as Jesus of Nazareth and Saul was immediately converted to a believer by virtue of having seen and heard him. The events that followed included being healed of his blindness due to his faith that Jesus would do this for him through another believer. Having persecuted many Christians because he was following the Jewish Law of the old testament, Saul would now claim to be a believer in Christ Jesus and now call himself Paul to mark the conversion. Of course he was not the only one to witness the risen Christ, but he is the most famous one.

There is a new covenant my friend, you had better do some better research before you are wasted away by being bound to the old covenant which is impossible for anyone to uphold or abide by without Christ Jesus. Try as you may to do this on your own, you will never ever measure up to the requirement of the Law in the old testament. Not gonna happen. Failing to take God's free but very precious gift would be an awful mistake. Why would you waste God's own blood on the cross trying to go it alone?
 
Saul would now claim to be a believer in Christ Jesus and now call himself Paul to mark the conversion. Of course he was not the only one to witness the risen Christ, but he is the most famous one.
You are quoting from a book that is not even contemporary with what it describes and that has no corroborating evidence whatsoever. The same book also tells of happenings that we know are impossible. It is a work of fiction written to impress the gullible with the fulfillment of Old Testament prophecies.

You might as well be quoting stories from Harry Potter.
 
Boy are you mistaken and greatly deceived.

Ditto.

There is a new covenant my friend

No there isn't, friend.

you had better do some better research...

I quoted from your New Testament, which I assume you believe in. Even Paul said

Yet for us there is one God, the Father, from whom are all things and for whom we exist, and one Lord, Jesus Christ, through whom are all things and through whom we exist.
1 Corinthians 8:6

In the New Testament, Lord is the most frequently used title for Jesus Christ, indicating his authority, power, and control as all Prophets and Messengers had.

Try as you may, you will NOT go to heaven if you continue to believe in FALSEHOOD i.e., making a human God or believing in the trinity which was never advocated by ANY of the Prophets or given in the earliest copies of the Bible.

Failing to believe in the ONENESS of God, which is a very precious gift, would be an awful mistake and lead to HELLFIRE.

We have certainly sent down distinct verses. And Allaah guides whom He wills to a straight path.
Qur'an 24:46
 
You are quoting from a book that is not even contemporary with what it describes and that has no corroborating evidence whatsoever. The same book also tells of happenings that we know are impossible. It is a work of fiction written to impress the gullible with the fulfillment of Old Testament prophecies.
There are of course many who will go down the wide path of believing man as their source of truth for things that are non spiritual just as they did in the days of Noah. But for things that go beyond what you can see and physically observe you have only your own limited assertions. God gives you many chance's during his period of grace. Just as they laughed and scoffed at all the animals entering the ark of their own free will in the days of Noah, you now make your assertions that you have special knowledge from man's observations. There comes a time the ark is sealed and the period of grace ends, the non believers in the days of Noah acted much like you, still asserting because they have never seen it rain before, or never seen water spouts come up from the ground before that it is impossible for such things to happen. But once the ark is sealed by God, you are to suffer God's wrath just as those in the day of Noah did only this time it will be trial by fire. This has been foretold for thousands of years, and when it does happen, you will attempt to explain it away.

God can use any human being now or in the past that is willing to trust him to reveal truth about him and his requirements to repent and turn away from sin. So the information is not locked away in the ancient text as if God is not present. The info can come directly by his holy spirit. This will probably go over your head, because you are more concerned about avoiding what God would have you do to look further and you do not currently fear any of God's eventual wrath that will be coming your way. That's OK, many will choose a path of spiritual separation from God to elevate themselves above God and assume that man's understanding of truth is all there is.

In the New Testament, Lord is the most frequently used title for Jesus Christ, indicating his authority, power, and control as all Prophets and Messengers had.
And no mere prophet has the ability to forgive sins. No prophet other than Jesus was called the Son of God or Son of man. Yet Jesus is able to forgive sins by virtue of being God's Son and did so during his ministry. Guess you haven't understood just how much more Jesus is. God himself said as he was baptized in the holy spirit at the beginning of his ministry, "This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased!" Matt 3:17. Trying to equate Jesus to any other prophet is ignoring the power of God's greatest gift to mankind. You would reduce him to a prophet alone for your own sake? Is this for your own righteousness or to insist that you right? Would you reject God's gift and say you are righteous before him because of your own works? The heavenly sacrifice isn't good enough for you? Mark 16:19 After the Lord Jesus had spoken to them, he was taken up into heaven and sat down at the right hand of God. Do all prophets ascend to sit at the right hand of God?

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Without Christ Jesus, how Aziz do you obtain forgiveness of your sins? Surely you are not going to say you have no sin, are you? Rejecting his Son as just a prophet is the biggest sin of all. If you say I do it directly to the Father, then let me remind you that no man comes to the Father except through his Son Jesus Christ. He is the way the truth and the life. This is a very special authority given to him unlike any other.

Actual prophets anointed by God in the past were just men that were chosen by God to speak his word to the people. Jerimiah for example, was a prophet but he does not sit at the right hand of God or forgive the sins of man.
 
Surely you are not going to say you have no sin, are you?

Given the way that Muslims treat Christians in some of the Middle Eastern countries, and given that Aziz claims to be a devout Muslim (which I fully believe, by the way), it will NOT be possible to claim that there is no sin there. Given the way Muslims treat homosexuals, Jews, and atheists, they will have a lot of sin. Which is why it is a good thing that sin (in the religious sense) doesn't exist since it is based on an affront to God, Jehovah, or Allah, none of whom exist either.
 
There are two main categories of sin. One is sin against other persons and the other is sin against the one true God which is the one without sin or darkness. Saying that sin doesn't exist is like saying mathematics doesn't exist. Math of course would not exist except in the minds of humans and in the mind of God. Apart from that, math doesn't really exist. Sounds silly doesn't it?:rolleyes:
 
Constantly but consistently, Adam. But then again, you knew my preferences a long time ago.
 
There are two main categories of sin. One is sin against other persons and the other is sin against the one true God which is the one without sin or darkness. Saying that sin doesn't exist is like saying mathematics doesn't exist. Math of course would not exist except in the minds of humans and in the mind of God. Apart from that, math doesn't really exist. Sounds silly doesn't it?:rolleyes:

You DID notice that I qualified "sin (in the religious sense)" did you not? There is, indeed, a sin against humanity, a sin against intellect, and even "a sin and a shame"... but I will avoid the bad joke usually associated with that phrase.
 
You DID notice that I qualified "sin (in the religious sense)" did you not?
Just trying to clarify so that Aziz doesn't come back and say that he doesn't sin. Lying to one's self in this matter is a tough thing to admit for those that think of themselves as generally good people, but if we are aware that it is sin that separates us from God, then he throws us a life line sacrifice (his son), them maybe we should make every attempt to grab a hold of that rope.

Sin is largely about morality between persons. Yes God is a person.
 
There are of course many who will go down the wide path of believing man as their source of truth for things that are non spiritual just as they did in the days of Noah.
So you actually believe a man built a ship and kept two of every animal on it for forty days while the whole planet was covered with water that came from nowhere then somehow mysteriously drained away.

And you expect to be considered an intelligent person? Just bizarre. Amazing what can be done through childhood indoctrination into a cult belief.
 
So you actually believe a man built a ship and kept two of every animal on it for forty days

Plus, of course, enough FOOD for that menagerie. And I'm betting the lions got a bit testy if the ferrets came too close. I wonder if THAT is the "real" reason we no longer have dodo birds?
 

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